shameless ~ [//on plaigiarism//]

you would leave me mute
of my memories
& the gratuitous suffering
i've bled from my psyché
in a dark ink spill ~
each time you cut [& paste]
the names of my lovers
from the sighs on my tongue
to claim them
between
your soiled pages
*
sully [my] emotions
& rape thoughts
i've stripped to the bone
... denuded ...
i am vulnerable
when i stroke my deeds
& bare them to vultures
who pick shamelessly
at the carcass
of [stolen] experience
to violate the fragile balance
of signature punctuation
//
i do not waive the rights
to painful impressions
you stake under pretence
... laying siege to my words
to the syllables
which are the aum
of my catharsis ...
*
self-serving
self-righteous
an entitled thief
fashioning patchwork poetry
pilfered & perverted
as a means to an end
... i pity you, poor soul
poor of identity
broke of creativity
famished for attention
starved of honesty...
//

Reviews

[Matching Socks]

Your words have been read, and your voice has been heard.
I will warn you I have suffered much backlash and abuse on this subject but I will always stand up for what I believe is true and right. I will make no accusations against this poet that you came to confront, as I think you will do a fine job on your own, much as blue angel has. The people of the Cafe are good people and I am sorry they have to go through this yet again but I hope that they understand the seriousness of what is happening here and know that we will weather the storm.

[katja]

*
Anče thank you for your comment & words of advice. i am not easily intimidated by one who cannot string together a sentence which isn't littered with profanity...
... i feel for the members here who are [clearly] frustrated when someone arrives to complain about the same old thing. but it will continue to happen unless something is done about the problem.
//

[blue angel]

The innocent ones are the ones who end up feeling the most pain. It is true that where the plagiarist resides is where the victims will continue to come, in order to express their hurt. The haven for the writer's community has been compromised by the selfishness of the offender(s). I have nothing but respect for the innocent. Respectfully, blue angel

[Ana B.]

The balance between innocents and guilty ones are always is a frail one. Its just so hard to fight for the right lately( or ever).... thank you for bringing it to my attention Ana. Lovely work Miss M :) unfortunately plagiarism is like a mildew....no matter what you do, it always comes back.....you just have to keep figthing it....or make a total incineration of the place....

[katja]

you're quite right that it repeats itself into exhaustion & it's not easy to find pause, let alone an end... it is also not so simple to incinerate the point of origin, as the weeds sprout in new locations, seemingly more stubborn than before...
... my heartfelt thanks to you for reading & leaving your thoughts here

~yekaterina

[Ana B.]

Anytime, when you need someone on your side to fight for what's right, you know where to find me :)

[wordman]

I guess these people,plagarist are looking for attention, looking to be popular I suppose,
I do not understand why any body feels the need to steal other than that,when you post a poem it should be a part of you,from your heart and soul
you wrote a very important write here and it is a great poem

[katja]

*
if you truly do not understand, i would suggest you ask the plagiarist you protect & defend with such vehemence....
... i am not here for a mud slinging match, but i will fight for my right to write without concern that people [used very loosely considering thieves are the dregs of society] like samantha will not steal my words verbatim, edit old posts to fake publishing dates & then call me [and others] a liar for shining a light on her deceit

she is not a victim, she is a bully. her "woe is me" attitude is not justified when she has wronged so many people... & you would be wise to note that where there's smoke, there's fire & the whole world cannot be out to get someone who was never on their radar until the poems were stolen

i will leave it at that, lest i lose my poise

thank you for reading & trying to understand what i'm conveying

peace
yekaterina

[wordman]

I really do not under stand your attitude of me protecting anybody, just her to read and write,
read moreI really do not under stand your attitude of me protecting anybody, just her to read and write,
I try to stay out of the lime light. What would you have us to do here delete as friend

[katja]

www.writerscafe.org/writing/VirginPoet/1390957/?reply=3606272#comment-3606272  http://www.writerscafe.org/writing/VirginPoet/1390957/?reply=3606272#comment-3606272

"does this crap never end, and I think they just insulted all the people that
reviewed this write"

^^^^
unless i'm completely mistaken & you didn't publicly insult me for trying to have my stolen poetry removed, that is defending someone who deserves to choke on their self-righteousness.... the way she slanders those she's stolen from is really just testimony to how broken her moral compass is... you clearly condone this type of behaviour...
so one is lead to believe that your first comment is less than genuine or you are finally seeing the company you keep for what it truly is...
... i do so hope it's the latter

[wordman]

and to be totally honest I haven't seen anything but accusations and links that I can`t find
just post your poem let us see it.give me the title of samanthas I will go read it. you and I can hash this out in private just send a message

[katja]

my heartfelt & most genuine apologies to you then for my misunderstanding...
...i would, however, most likely insult anyone [again] for not picking up on the inconsistencies of the poems... there is no niche as all they are ripped off... anyone claiming to be as literate as her would not make such egregious errors when replying to comments etc etc

[Cool Girl]

I love this!! You should enter this in the anti plagiarist contest!

[katja]

thank you so very much for reading my little scribble... most appreciated

[Cool Girl]

Welcome! :)

[R Smith]

how right you are, the souless thief not creative or in any way talented, you have nailed him to the mast now bring out the whips and finish him! Great work Miss M :)

[katja]

*
that is far too much effort exerted on someone who [perhaps] is not even worth my scorn...
... your comment made me grin though, so very much appreciated
//

[R Smith]

you're very welcome :)

[Rene Salinas]

I completely support your intention and I hope that out of dignity and respect the situation gets dealt with swiftly. Yet the irony of this is that you wouldn't be able to do this in the site pasted there as the lady if indeed she is a lady would remove my post, your post or any attempt to an incendiary post faster than I could breathe. Why? because she moderates! Which is why she moderated the user you are implicating. This is the third example I have come around today. What is this meant to achieve? Blow steam? Create more drama? Get reviews? None of us are in a position to log onto the server an moderate. Compasion and pity would seem patronizing in my views. So how many more of this writings are we going to get before numbness takes over and we put this in the void of normality? As for the contest enthusiatically promoted it seems more like a satire and a celebration as the person we attempt to shame. He has no shame and the powers at be allow him to deceive and promote ignorance on a daily basis.



Thank you

[katja]

*
Rene, i have [complete] respect for your opinion. this is not about perpetuating the drama, deceit & generally shady reputation of this website & the criminal involved... this is about putting a stop to her continued behaviour, bullying & bold faced lies which have left a horrid trail of stench as she infests poetry websites with pillaged poems...
... this notifying a community of a t**d in the punch bowl is allowed "there" & the moderator in question has more integrity & balls quite frankly than whoever administrates the Café [from their lack of response to emails & evidence]

the influx of pissed off plaigiarised poets who migrate here annually will no doubt continue until someone sweeps the trash out the door
//
peace
yekaterina

[Calo]

How many members still think this is a writers site? It's a social site, "Tracebook". Popularity moderates the users. If you are looking for a writing site go back to lined paper and bic

[Rene Salinas]

Yet again! I come to write and mostly read. I'm a member of other sites and I do pretty much the same. I'm not sure what your assumption is but seeing you type in this box I'm sure it must be different. Care to share?

[CA Anurag Sharma]

good one... i wish people realize that copying someone's words wont make them great... inside they know how shallow they are

[katja]

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Anurag, thank you most kindly for taking the time to read my thoughts...
... i think such realisation comes from introspection far beyond the scope of one who is clearly narcissistic

once more, my humble thanks for your time
//

[Falling Leaf.]

There is a risk in posting writing online, unfortunately so many people would rather take personal words and make them their own, I've never been a victim or at least I don't think I have, nice write you have here, thanks for sharing~

[katja]

*
yes, there is a risk & perhaps naivety believing that all & sundry live by the same normal code [theft is theft & it's wrong] ~
i appreciate the read immensely, Falling Leaf. thank you
//

[Workvio]

To find oneself stirred by the words penned by another's heart is not wrong, nor sinful, but is indeed a compliment ... But, to take those words and attempt to possess them as your own in failing to credit the author and creator of those words (and that by express permission), is not only wrong, but is a shamefully blasphemous cardinal sin of the writer's creed ... We each live with this concern in sharing our hearts penned to page on the web, hoping that good people will read our words and enjoy them, not steal them for their own agenda's and lack of muse, talent, and inspiration ... To folks such as this I relegate to the genre of being less than lower than animals ... To imitate or emulate is flattery, but to steal is theft of one's intellectual and emotional thoughts ... We each possess our own unique writing styles, and if pressed to prove authorship and ownership, one who thinks to get away with such black magic will find themselves in a pickle if challenged to reproduce that unique style of material they attempt to claim as theirs, and that on the spot without time to plot and fa-niggle their way out of it ... In other words, plagiarist thieves cannot duplicate what they steal, without stealing more, for they have no originality of their own to present to the world as proof of what they write, and unique writing styles are difficult to duplicate ... Frankly, and pardon the language, people like this piss me off to no end ... Fight the good fight for the right to own and control what belongs to you alone, and bury the schmuck that thinks to duck your blows in the feces of his/her own defecation ... Thank you for sharing this piece, and for the warning that maggots such as these are roaming the Ethernet waves, perhaps even this site ...

[katja]

*
i could not agree more with your very eloquent statement, Marvin. a love for words is what moved each of us to first pick up a pen & put thought to paper, then hone our skills until we've carved out a unique style for ourselves...
... it's a sad day when someone is either so devoid of emotion / incapable of expressing their own emotion / or so dissatisfied with what they're feeling & why that they need to look outward instead of inward.

thank you ever so much for such a well thought out comment
//
~ katja

[Workvio]

No thought in commenting involved ... Pure instinctive reflex of protecting and speaking up for fellow writers, and a sister of the quill ...

[katja]

cheers so much either way, it's deeply appreciated

[MomzillaNC]

Well penned. Great lines:

"i do not waive the rights
to painful impressions
you stake under pretence
... laying siege to my words"

NOTES: If you worked in something about the plagiarist's nads (gonads, balls, testicles, etc.) being boiled in bat guano (poo, poop, crap, s**t, etc.), this would make a powerful submission to my anti-plagiarism contest, "Boiled In Bat Guano" http://www.writerscafe.org/contests/Boiled-In-Bat-Guano/50802/

[...Relic...]

A contest on anti-plagiarism at a time like this seems opportunistic and tacky to me. I'm seeing you advertise this all over. I don't mean to sound mean or combative. I just one should focus on what the writer has done here. I could be wrong though. Pay no attention to me.

[...Relic...]

*I just think one should* Sorry.

[MomzillaNC]

Everyone has their own perspective. And each and every one of us has their own right to have attention paid to their truly original creative efforts. I understand your perspective, even if I do not share it.

As for "opportunistic and tacky…" those are words I feel are more aptly applied to those who plagiarize. The contest was inspired by a particular plagiarist who's driven away a couple of wonderful people with his/her/their numerous aliases. It is intended to be a collective way to speak to that plagiarist and to anyone who would stoop so low.

[...Relic...]

Like I said, pay no attention to me. :)

[MomzillaNC]

As I said, "And each and every one of us has their own right to have attention paid to their truly original creative efforts."

Never diminish your own value by being self-dismissive. If I didn't want to pay attention to you, I'd never have reviewed, nor responded back to you.

[katja]

*
thank you most kindly for dropping by to peek at my words, MomzillaNC. i shall swing by your competition & take a look if i can offer something
//

[MomzillaNC]

Regardless of whether you enter or not, keep speaking out against plagiarism. It is the enslavement of someone else's genius.

[...Relic...]

Well said. What dignity is there in taking someone else's words for your own self-esteem. I hope it all works out for you.

[katja]

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thank you muchly, Relic. one can only hope for speedy resolution by moderators
//read more*
thank you muchly, Relic. one can only hope for speedy resolution by moderators
//

[...Relic...]

It may not be so speedy around here but we'll see.

[Thecapedcrusader]

remarkable words, Miss M. nice voice, and language. wonderful fluidity and tempo. great images

unfortunately its the community as a whole that suffers when a thief is in the midst. that’s not to say that your obvious pain is lessened in the bigger picture, but sadly, the fact is Writer’s Cafe has become synonymous with stolen poems, mostly because of the person who has pillaged your words. she is notorious in my community and on many poetry sites on fb too.

I think for the most part, there is a bewilderment among actual poets as to how she has remained here on this site for so long, and that is why this community has a bad name.

its a shame because there is some very well written poetry here.

anyhow, Miss. sorry for the ramble. good stuff, keep shining

[katja]

as always, you favour me with such generous comments & i am deeply humbled to have you in my corner throughout this [xo]

this would never be tolerated on the underground, it's sad to see the moderators, site owners here have become complacent & accepting of such behaviour [&] are too spineless [?] to take a stand / show a united front in protecting the integrity of their website.

it boggles my mind that this person [and i use that word in the loosest possible way] has been allowed to ride roughshod through this place like an outlaw, bullying, stealing & getting away with it for so long but [hopefully] not much longer

cheers so much for being here, reading & supporting the war on the lowest of the low
//