PART 5 WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE?

PART 5 WHERE DO I GO FROM HERE?

A Chapter by rondo
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Who should I associate with that will help me to grow spiritually?

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Now that you are a Christian, then what?

What is the Christian life all about?

�-�Who Should I Associate With That Will Help Me to Grow Spiritually?

CHAPTER 4

Who Should I Associate With That Will Help Me to Grow Spiritually?

When I got saved, I received an incredible saturation of God’s divine love, joy, and peace. However, as the anointing of the Holy Spirit dissipated my mental tendencies, as they were before I was saved, began to resurface. Here I was a single guy in his mid-twenties, who even though I was attending worship service on Sunday morning along with a bible study mid-week there were still five other nights that were not accounted for. I continued to go to night clubs, dancing, drinking, and looking for girls. The difference this time was that the messages I would hear twice a week would remind me that I should start to make better decisions concerning these involvements.

       Due to certain circumstances I left the initial church that I got saved in. As time went on I found a church that was newly established. I attended the once a week worship service. It was dynamite. The Holy Spirit would impact me with his presence. The word was insightful. But again I had six other nights free. Eventually, a second night for gathering together was established. Soon I was told of another meeting that was taking place not too far away from where I lived by an affiliated branch ministry. Now I had three nights where I attended the worship services in order to hear the word of God and be impacted by the Holy Spirit’s presence.

       On one particular occasion I attended a worship service with two of my friends, both of whom were born again. When the service ended a fellow believer asked us if we could give him a ride home to which I responded, sure. On the way to his house he pulled out of his pocket a couple of marijuana cigarettes and asked us if we wanted to indulge in this drug. We all agreed. I found a hidden place to park the car, and all of us participated in this endeavor. After a few minutes we were in a zombie like state. A period of time went by and eventually I drove everyone home.

       This interaction of going to church, hearing a message, being impacted by God’s presence, driving this particular person home, and then partaking in marijuana went on for about three weeks. At that point I told him this had to stop. If he still needed a ride home after church service, then fine. However, I told him that if he asked any of us again as we were driving him home to smoke a marijuana cigarette we would no longer be giving him a ride. A short time later following worship service he asked for a ride home. While on the way he asked if anyone wanted to get stoned. I spoke up and told him that was it. We would no longer be giving him rides home anymore.

       As most of us are aware, Jesus called some unsavory people to be his disciples, some of whom later became his apostles. During his three years of public ministry I’m sure there were plenty of instances when the disciples’ fleshly tendencies were on display. However, their sinful ways didn’t cause Christ’s walk to deviate from God the Father’s plan for his life.

       Why not?

       Because he was continually submissive to the Father by listening to his voice and obeying his directives. As a result his life impacted his disciples instead of their lives impacting his.

       If you want to have God’s wisdom in making decisions concerning who to associate with it first starts with you making decisions to take advantage of listening to the teachings of the assembly. Some of these teachings should assist you in addressing areas of weakness that have inhibited the ministry of the Holy Spirit from operating in your own life. As you learn to appropriate new thoughts for those areas of mental dysfunction and reflect upon them throughout your day you will begin to recognize the responsiveness of the ministry of the Holy Spirit.

       What I would like to present to you next are some scriptural sections that will help you in determining who to associate with.

 

                     Let’s begin by taking a look at the book of 1 Corinthians.

 Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners:

1 Corinthians 15:12-33

12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?                

       There were some skeptics in the church of Corinth who believed there was no bodily resurrection.

       14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.    

       The apostle Paul said that if this was true, then our preaching would be in vain (has no meaning), and your faith would also be vain (without value).

       15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.

       He goes on further to say that if this was the case, then he would be considered a false witness of God. The gospel (good news) of Christ therefore that he preached would become useless and worthless.

       17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

       Again he stated that if Christ was not raised, then their faith likewise was vain (without results); and they would be still yet  in their sins (meaning that they are unpardoned sinners).

       Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

       It is only by means of Christ’s atonement (sacrifice) for sins, that sin is no longer an issue concerning the demands of God’s justice. By Christ giving of his own life he annulled the devil’s power over death, a sovereignty of which the souls of all who died would go to one of the two compartments of hell, Paradise or torments, never being able to be released from either place. Romans 4:25 speaks of the judicial act of God the Father delivering God the Son to the justice that required the payment of the penalty for human sin. After which he was raised from the dead for our justification (in order to reconcile us to God). The Resurrection was God's validation that the redemption paid by Christ on the cross was accepted.

       Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners. (1 Corinthians 15:33)

       Some of the Corinthian believers rejected the resurrection in order to rationalize their sin, because according to them if there was no resurrection then what they did with their bodies would have no bearing on their future. Paul goes on to say, be not deceived, don’t believe something that is not true. Conversations or companionship with those who deny the resurrection will result in the ruin of your morals, good character, and cause your faith to be weakened. So don’t associate with them, not even for the sake of their pleasing conversation, literary accomplishments, and glozing (to explain something away) speeches.

       These verses are very clear. If there are those who are teaching or holding to the belief that Christ was not raised from the dead, don’t associate with them in any way, shape, or form.

       Some might say that this response is not very Christ-like. Was Christ’s response to the religious tenets of the Pharisees Christ-like? Was Christ’s response to Peter Christ-like when Peter said to Him that He would not go to the cross and suffer and die?

 

The next verse that we will look at is taken from the Old Testament.

He that walketh with wise men shall be wise:

Proverbs 13:20

He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed.

He that habitually and continuously keeps company with people who have wisdom shall be wise, but one who has intercourse and companionship with those who act stupidly will lose their mind and suffer moral ruin.

      This verse is addressed to the Jews of the Old Testament. We will use it as an application for Christians today. Wise men will refer to Christians who operate in Godly wisdom. Fools will refer to those who are ungodly (unbelievers) that operate in human reason.   

       After reading this verse you might respond by saying that the message being conveyed is telling us to not associate with those who act stupidly. If this was the case, then this would intimate that as Christians we should stay in our own circles and stay away from unbelievers. But what this verse is really saying is that we should not be intimate with them, but rather intimacy should be with those who have divine wisdom.

       Why should we be around those who have divine wisdom?

       So that we will have the divine wisdom which is needed in order to impact those who act stupidly.

       Are you having problems with alcohol abuse? Get divine wisdom.

       Are you having problems with lust toward men or women? Get divine wisdom.

       Are you having problems with your temper? Get divine wisdom.

       The following verse conveys this idea very well.

       There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. (1 Corinthians 10:13)

       Let’s take a look at one more section of scriptures which in this case conveys the idea of not associating with certain believers. I think that for many who are in the leadership positions of the church the circumstance which will be presented next is one that they would rather not address; and likewise if they did I wonder how many of the assembly would not agree with their approach.

 

Please go to the book of 1 Corinthians Chapter 5.

Purge out therefore the old leaven:

1 Corinthians 5:1-13

1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

Paul has received a report concerning someone in the church, who was involved in an illicit sexual relationship with his step mother. This sin is so public that it cannot be concealed and it is so certain that it cannot be denied.

       2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.

       He told them that they, the believers in Corinth, were living in pride, because they were afflicted and troubled in taking the proper means for removing the offender.

       3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,

       If he (Paul) were present, he would know what judgment to administer to him that had committed this sin.

       6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

       7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

       A single sin corrupts the whole church. Therefore, they were to remove this person from their company.

       12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?

       It is our business to judge [used of the disciplinary judgment to which Christians subject the conduct of their fellows, passing censure (to find fault with, to criticize harshly) upon them as the facts require] fellow believers, when the sin committed is commonly known by the church assembly.

       13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

       Evidently there were plenty of witnesses (one who can or does state as the truth what he himself has seen, heard, or knows)to the egregious sin. The protocol for handling this sin is as follows: the accused is rendered innocent or guilty before the judicial court of the elders or those who serve in this judicial capacity with input from the eye or ear witnesses, but without the congregation being present. If the accused is found guilty, an announcement of the offense would be made before the church assembly without the accused believer being present along with such a censure as the case demands. Paul described here an official church meeting at which the offender was dealt with according to divine instructions. Public sin must be publicly judged and condemned. The sin was not to be "swept under the rug"; for, after all, it was known far and wide even among the unsaved, who were outside the church.

       11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

       If the offending Christian is found guilty, then the believers in the assembly were instructed to not have contact or fellowship with him/her. The same judicial process would be followed if the following habitual overt sins were evidenced in public such as fornication (sexual immorality), covetous (greed); idolatry (giving reverence to idols); railing (using words to vilify the character of another); drunkardness (one who is continually drunk); and extortion (robbing someone of their goods or valuables). Just as a reminder I will say it again that if the offender was found guilty, then the believers in the church were not to associate with him/her.

       Some of you might ask how long are we to separate ourselves from this believer?

       I believe this depends on whether the believer acknowledged their offense before the judicial authorities of the church. If they refused to acknowledge their sin after having been found guilty of it, then they probably would be removed from the church indefinitely. If, however, they chose to acknowledge their sin there would probably be imposed a censure where they would be removed from fellowship for a fixed period of time.

       No one will say that this is easy. This is as difficult for the leadership as it is for the assembly of believers.

       Before we go on to the next chapter I would like to leave you with another one of my stories about personal associations.

       Sometimes things happen in our life, which appear to come out of nowhere. Associations that we thought were solid, especially those which involve fellow believers, can crumble very quickly.

       After I had retired from teaching high school mathematics for thirty years I decided that it was time to take some of the thoughts that God had given me concerning various biblical topics and write them down in the form of a manuscript with the hope of eventually publishing them. I wrote my first book “Overcoming: Living Victoriously in Christ” in 2012 which is now referred to as “Overcoming: Learning How to Live Victoriously” along with a second book entitled “My Search for the One True God” in 2014.

       The story line of the second book is as follows:

       Does God really exist? If so, how does one find Him? Where does one look? These are fundamental questions most people ask at some point in their life. My Search For The One True God aims to answer those questions while directing readers toward a life of meaning and purpose from a spiritual perspective. 

       Too often we get caught up in the dos and don’ts of a church’s theology, without ever having a deep and true relationship with God.

       Author, James Rondinone, takes the reader on his own personal journey through various religions and experiences, illustrating that God indeed exists.

       The reader will have an opportunity to find the one true God for themselves, and like the author will be able to experience His personalness and have assurance of a heavenly dwelling place after physical death. 

       After I had finished writing this manuscript I gave a copy of such to certain fellow believers asking them to read it over, and as they did to edit it and provide feedback. One of the readers got quite upset after having read some of the manuscript because in it was a critique of a particular faith that he was still involved with. As a result he had accused me of no longer presenting Christ’s teachings.

       Not only was this person a member of the fellowship that I oversaw, but he had assisted me at times in teaching along with being an officer of the church. What I mean when I say he was an officer in the church is this. In order for any religious group to be considered a Domestic Non-profit a form needs to be filled out with the Office of the Secretary of State that requires there be at least three people who occupy various positions such as President, Vice President, Treasurer, etc. The advantages of this filing is that if approved the religious group not only would have attained non-taxable status in regards to financial offerings, but this document would also allow the group to place its messages on-line with the local newspaper which required proof of its non-taxable status.

       I have to admit that I was taken aback by the charge of not presenting Christ’s teachings. I tried to address this misperception, but it was to no avail. This, however, was not the end of it. Another charge which completely blindsided me was forthcoming. It was alleged by this same believer that I had taken church funds in order to pay for the eventual publishing of this book. I couldn’t believe what I had heard. Here was someone that I had co-labored with in the gospel for a considerable period of time, one who was even entrusted with the responsibility of teaching the assembly. I responded to him by saying that this was not true. He decided to resign from being an officer of the church along with making the decision to no longer be in association with the fellowship.

       What I decided to do was call a friend of mine, a pastor from New York, and ask him for advice as to how he would handle this situation. He told me to give to this person the financial records of the fellowship for as long as it has been in operation. In this way he would have proof that no wrongdoing had taken place. So this is what I did. After making copies of the financial records I called him and asked if he would meet up with me so that I could give him these records. He agreed to meet up with me. When we met he asked me again if I had used church funds to eventually publish my book and I responded with, no, I didn’t. He said that this response was good enough for him. He decided that he didn’t want the records, and so we parted ways.

       When things like this happen you first need to check your mental state. Had I done something wrong? Were my motives pure? If you are convinced that you have done nothing wrong, then go to God in prayer requesting guidance as to how you can help to restore the relationship with your fellow believer. If from whoever or however this answer is received, then see to it that you follow it through. Hopefully, it will be well received by the offending person. If not, then there is nothing more you can do other than leave it in God’s hands to resolve. By the way this person did eventually apologize to me for making this accusation.

       Let’s summarize what we have learned.

�-�If a believer has decided to no longer believe in a foundational doctrine of the faith (e.g. the resurrection of Christ; the deity of Christ; Christ’s payment for sin and forgiveness; etc.), then we are no longer to associate our self with them.

�-�If a believer has committed an egregious sin that is publicly known by the church assembly and is brought before those who will address such matters and is found guilty and repents, then we should have no contact with them until the time imposed by the church censure is fulfilled.

�-�If a believer has committed an egregious sin that is publicly known by the church assembly and is brought before those who will address such matters and is found guilty and does not repent, then not only will they be removed from the church assembly indefinitely, but along with this we should have no contact with them.

�-�We should walk with those believers who have divine wisdom so that we can receive divine wisdom from them.

�-�As we grow in the Lord this will allow us to exhibit Christ-likeness when in the company of unbelievers some of whom we can describe as being fools (of bad moral character). In this sense we are told to not be their companion or have intimacy with them, because if we do this will cause us to be destroyed (to morally lower down).

       Each of us has family, friends, and associates who we were intimate with before our salvation.

       Now that we are saved should we sever all ties with them?

       It can be difficult for a new believer to make an assessment as to whether to continue on in their relationship with them and if so to what degree. My suggestion is to get immersed in listening to the teachings of the assembly that you have decided to attend. Allow God’s word and presence to guide and impact you. If you find that further association with them causes you to get caught back up in engaging in certain behaviors which are inhibiting your walk with God, then lessen your time with them.

       As far as your own areas of weakness are concerned go to God in prayer and ask him for guidance in addressing them so that you can become mentally strong according to his word and be impacted by the filling (control) of the Holy Spirit. Hopefully over time you will not only recognize your spiritual growth in this area but will according to the ministry of the Holy Spirit evidence a Godly testimony.

       In the next chapter we are going to look at another roadblock, which I think for many believers acts upon them in a habitual manner as in the sense of the reoccurring of the same day events in the movie “Groundhog Day”. This roadblock if not addressed will reoccur over and over and over again thus severely inhibiting our walk with God. Let’s see what this roadblock is all about.

Follow this series: on-line at:

Weekly Messages: https://www.blockislandtimes.com/affiliate/block-island-christian-fellowship/12074

Website: http://www.makingtheonerightchoice.com/ 

 



© 2016 rondo


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I am happy to see you writing of what is now happening in your life and making changes. For me, the change was more a growth process, inner convictions help one to feel when the spirit is leading them. God bless you. Valentine

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My name is James Rondinone. I am a husband, father, and spiritual leader. I grew up in Massachusetts and began my own spiritual journey early on in life. I attended bible college having completed a.. more..

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