Math is Invisible

mr zero empirical
math the invisible
completely lacking specifics
granted access to everything
(and everything to him)
entirely universal
mr zero empirical (math is invisible)
the essence of description
this consciousness the remainder
my one-ness is not a part of me
totally independent of all living things
our two-ness is not part of us
mr zero empirical (mathematics invisible)
something discovered but never made
math the fundamental
independent of living
the most harmonious of features
the essence of our universe
which applies to all that is in it
and while we may never create it

it remains ours to create anything with it

(everything)

Reviews

[Ana B.]

I liked the soft tone of this. Although i always considered that the zero number should not exist, i mean, there is no such thing as a complete null, especially in practice, so it's existence is unnatural. But, oh well, if it helps proving and disproving theories who am i to dispute it. I really liked the peacefulness of this poem. Like a silent storm, sort of revolutionary, but then again, the moment right before the storm is the most peaceful and still.

[Davidgeo]

Think of 0 as not just the denotation for the absence of something but also an numeral with additive properties, for example, 9+1 = 10, 99+1 = 100, and so on; it's kind of like a placeholder in that sense. Before the concept of zero there was a inherent limit to how high one could count with precision.

[Ana B.]

yet since inside the infinity, the space between 1 and 2 is also another infinity....so then what's the difference between 1 and 1 000 000... but yes, fair point well made from your part :)

[Davidgeo]

The whole "everything is divisible or can be reduced infinitely" argument. It's a tricky concept. Figure that one out and you may win a Nobel Prize in physics for indirectly describing the singularity of a black hole.

[Ana B.]

haha i'm not even touching that one. The existence of black holes was predicted by Einstein's Theory of Relativity, though ironically he himself did not believe in their existence haha ....which is kind of cool, actually its super cool. Karl Schwarzschild's atempt of description of a black hole was kind of a breakthrough in the theoretical sense of something we have no idea about whatsoever. Damn, love these subjects...

[Davidgeo]

Einstein actually made a mistake in his theory of relativity. He assumed a static universe and actually had to insert a value in his equation to make it work, a value he didn't understand but new it was necessary or his theory was invalid. But in 1929, about ten years after Einstein published, Edwin Hubble proved that the universe is not only expanding but expanding at an exponential rate. A rate that exactly matched Einstein's previously inexplicable value that he had to insert to make his theory of relativity work. Einstein was wrong in the assumption the universe was static but right in the sense that he knew the exact value of his misunderstanding. That is the finest example of inductive logic I've ever heard of.

[Davidgeo]

That was probably littered with typos.... sorry about that.

[Ana B.]

I actually remember reading about this somewhere. Although, there are still quite a few scientists that are arguing and disproving the theory of relativity, and it mainly started since the post-Stalinist period. I guess when dealing with science every theory can be proved as well as disproved. A also find fascinating another figure of science - Nicola Tesla. Recently read a book about him and just wow. Discovery of the internet in the 18 hundreds, alternative current, radio, remote control, laser, electric motor and of course limitless energy that was strongly disapproved by any government, because that would mean no means to control people, and we are still paying a good portion for something that should be free. But what else is new though...

[Saud Maroof]

"Einstein was wrong in the assumption the universe was static but right in the sense that he knew the exact value of his misunderstanding. That is the finest example of inductive logic I've ever heard of." Sorry to just barge in but this is the most funniest fact/realisation i have heard all day.

[Ana B.]

dear Saud, please read: https://phys.org/news/2014-02-einstein-conversion-static-universe.html

[Saud Maroof]

Einstein was wrong in the assumption the universe was static but right in the sense that he knew the exact value of his misunderstanding.

this was the sentence that had me laughing out loud the amount of genius, luck and determination in this guy was too real. But he sure struggled through his time.

But Tesla on the hand was unlucky, he did the work and still was degraded and stamped as a lunatic. Yes he acted bizarre but if he was given a chance he would surely eased and transitioned to the modern age like few decades early....

[Ana B.]

I guess the world was not ready for Tesla's revolutionary thinking. imagine people in the victorian era walking with ipads or something ....meh

[Saud Maroof]

yea humans prefered to play with crowns and swords and fight over the color of the skin or beliefs i think clash of clans would have saved us all those deaths...

[Davidgeo]

Tesla was not scientifically rigorous. For all his genius he was a sloppy scientist. And I think that's why he will probably always remain underrated.

[Davidgeo]

Also... saying Einstein "struggled" through his time is inaccurate. He was widely recognized as a genius for most of his life. He was quite young when he first broke onto the scene... after 1919 he was pretty much a rock star in the scientific community.

[Ana B.]

Have you ever watched ''The ascent of man'' ? It is a relatively short documentary television series about the development of human race. Came out in the early 70's waaaaay before my time, but quite a gem. btw, notice people keep barging in? lol.

[Saud Maroof]

He might have been a sloppy but still, look around he did this, Eidson just sat on the side smoked his joint trying to get by through his own way. look Tesla was a human but a genius too, so like all humans he had his burdens to carry and did not appear as strong or determined as many scientists and had an expiry date but steal a man's due respect is just brutal. Science has provided scientists with their share of admiration. for eg; Scientists still keeps the original name of a mostly flawed and outdated theory just out of respect. If they change it they emphasis is on mentioning the old name. my point is that most scientists are always credited with the work they do. But Tesla was not given any credit for his work, yes his inventions included "evil weapons" that could cause an earthquake or disintegrating weapons that could turn a human into ash but still he was suppose to be credited, but instead he died miserably. A genius died and no fool could know about it.

it is just sad

[Saud Maroof]

When i said struggle i meant the waiting game he had to do and how he had to rely on other scientists to prove something he had devoted his life into I dont rember the time-period but i remember his progress was enormously hampered by the war so his struggle was the mental stress he had during the time he should have already moved on to different things.

[Davidgeo]

I'm not denigrating the man just stating what is already well known. No one's perfect, Tesla included. Yeah, also, your whole defense to qualify your "struggle" comment is pretty silly. Einstein started showing promise when he was 17 years old... He was 26 when he firmly hit the scene. His progress had nothing to do with "the" war. I take no pleasure in saying this but,... You are full of s**t.

[Davidgeo]

He was like... 70 plus years old when ww2 happened... what the f**k are you talking about?

[Saud Maroof]

But Einstein’s work came at a very steep cost. He had to divorce his wife, and lose his children. He was also alone in his theoretical work, but only he remained convinced that his work was right.
Years into his research, Einstein became mentally and physically ill. he was mentally exhausted. but lets leave him at peace now.

[Davidgeo]

Um... he divorced his wife because he loved to sleep with other women. And what do you mean by "lose" his children? One of them followed in his footsteps even. He was not alone, he was very social and well liked and after 1919 he had a lot of support and was widely recognized at the top of his field. You made all that s**t up and I don't understand why... are you trying to impress people or something? That's a really dumb way to do that.

[Saud Maroof]

I am not trying to impress anyone and i wouldn't want to impress anyone with my scientific knowledge i would rather have them impressed by seeing what i do with my stories and poems.

Sir, I am sharing with you what have read and listened regarding his life. I was not his close friend that he shared his pee pee size. so, opinions differ knowledge and facts get polarized with time. But I am not trying to show you my level of knowledge.

[Davidgeo]

Do better research... it seems like you are confusing part of John Nash's personal problems with Einstein. To be honest I highly doubt you heard all that, I'm still pretty sure you're just trying to sound smarter than you really are. If you can stop commenting on my writing and stop sending me personal messages that'd be great... okay?

[Shy Joe]

Math is invisible to the ones that don't seek it. All things are, I suppose. Except for time. That will come and find you. I enjoyed your poem, thanks for sharing.

[Chip Murison]

This is really excellent. It has the precision of math and I find it to be deeply philosophical as well. Hats off! Bravo.

[Unoriginaly Original]

Very insightful, deep and precise. I think I like this one best out of the ones you've asked me to read. Continue writing, it is your survival tool.
Next time don't let me find grammar being your fault.

[Davidgeo]

What exactly about my grammar are you talking about? You say that repeatedly by you never elaborate. Misspellings or, what? (you do realize that it's up the poet if they want to use punctuation, right?). I kinda think you just don't have anything real to say so you just throw that in there to sound useful. I have no respect for you if that is the case.

[Unoriginaly Original]

Dear that is not the case, I was reading all of your writings quickly and not taking time to elaborate because I was busy with personal issues.
Mr zero imperical.I would have liked it mlre should you put Mr.Zero Imperical, it is always proper to put a period after Mr and capitalizing the first letters to make it a pronoun and more like a person.
Instead of two-ness is not part of us, I think apart would do your work more justice.
They were just small things I saw that almost took away from your writing.

[Davidgeo]

Sure thing jelly bean...

Your suggestions are not improvements in terms of "grammar". I don't think you understand what you're talking about let alone what poetry isn't supposed to be. To be frank, I think it was a rather sophomoric way to contribute. It seems you care more about showing off than actually critiquing anything. There are flaws in my writing, but not of the surface nature you talk about. jr.

[Unoriginaly Original]

._.
Ok. Whatever you say.

[Davidgeo]

p***y.....

[Davidgeo]

Try harder.