you tell them girl...I was thinking about this last night...
love that ending I am shaking in my slippers
I am glad you published I was about to mail a whiny note of when..I was unpatiently waiting
thank you for telling them how it is how much it can hurt and the fact that the dark side will eat them alive
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I haven't stopped thinking about it either, I don't think people realize the magnitude of their acti.. read moreI haven't stopped thinking about it either, I don't think people realize the magnitude of their actions and the impact this has on a writer, especially a site such as this...we give birth to our words as though they were our children, good, bad or indifferent, I for one am very overprotective of mine. Thanks so much Holly.
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over protection is needed...I was told by someone that this site is different because it is automati.. read moreover protection is needed...I was told by someone that this site is different because it is automatically considered published work...I looked up all the laws no cash-no sass!!!that is what it is To lose your work is not nice that would hurt so bad
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Seriously? That's not good...ftw!! Now I'm going to give myself another headache thinking about th.. read moreSeriously? That's not good...ftw!! Now I'm going to give myself another headache thinking about that....
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well another writer just told me the same thing again in a review of night crawl and I like this guy.. read morewell another writer just told me the same thing again in a review of night crawl and I like this guy he is intelligent and a nice person...according to my reading without a signed/ money exchange contract they are not considered LEGALLY published but that doesn't mean that is what a publisher thinks...now I have a headache*)
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Fook! Money makes the world go around alright!
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Hey, y'all. Sorry for butting into this aging thread but If anyone is seriously concerned about cop.. read moreHey, y'all. Sorry for butting into this aging thread but If anyone is seriously concerned about copyright and plagiarism of what they offer here then secure a block of ISBN numbers, pile them all together into a book, pay for a couple of print-on-demand copies and send them to the Library of Congress and the Copyright Office with the associated fees. I think most publishers would want "first rights" so if you put it up here, even though it's provably copyrighted, don't be surprised if they reject it. Most will do that as they want material that has not yet been read by or offered to the public in any form or venue.
We should probably just consider the things we put up here as either advertising, soliciting, venting, sketching of ideas for feedback; or all of the preceding.
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Feel free, and thanks for the info. I think it's more of the fact that it's a huge slap in the face.. read moreFeel free, and thanks for the info. I think it's more of the fact that it's a huge slap in the face and a betrayal to all poets on this site or anywhere for that matter. To take someone else's work and attach your name to their heartfelt words & experiences is criminal in my mind...also they were supposedly a 'friend' here, it's more of a personal assault on my senses more than anything....
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Yes, Frieda, I agree with you. That sort of behavior certainly draws attention to a difference in m.. read moreYes, Frieda, I agree with you. That sort of behavior certainly draws attention to a difference in mind/spirit as it regards a sense of propriety and the willingness to adhere to certain rules of engagement. Perhaps you may take some satisfaction of a sort in a variant on that old saw about imitation being a sincere form of flattery; in this case plagiarism being a sincere form of recognition that your work has value. ;-)
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Ha such positivity! It was not my work she plagiarized, but I'm not sure Celine Dion would be as fo.. read moreHa such positivity! It was not my work she plagiarized, but I'm not sure Celine Dion would be as forgiving! ;-)
Oh! My bad. I thought it was one of yours (or someone here). Well, perhaps they considered it a ".. read moreOh! My bad. I thought it was one of yours (or someone here). Well, perhaps they considered it a "cover." You know, "I typed this and revised the formatting/punctuation so it's like my way of saying... don'cha know, huh?" ;-)
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Nope on all counts....it was a 'friend' here and more than half her catalouge was fraudulent.... a v.. read moreNope on all counts....it was a 'friend' here and more than half her catalouge was fraudulent.... a very painful slap in the face.
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Well, I don't know how she/he/it imagined that could turn out well. Obviously it didn't. Thanks fo.. read moreWell, I don't know how she/he/it imagined that could turn out well. Obviously it didn't. Thanks for the clarification.
Well said- excellent write! Powerful- I really enjoy your style- you are an inspiration- but it doesn't mean that anyone should 'EVER' steal your words!!! 'a betrayal punishable by the law of poets' - Thank you for sharing your brilliant talent & for posting this!
'What's behind these words,
blood, sweat, tears
heart & soul,
reaching into the vastness
of perception and tangibility~
swept away by pen
when you step on my emotions
it leaves a scar'
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Thanks so much reading and your great review, much appreciated!
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You are a brilliant writer- the pleasure is all mine. Thank you.
I could recognize a Frieda P piece anywhere, no one can do what you do, they even dare try. For on the cafe you've got family and family looks out for each other, with words we'll tear apart any new pages in the book of plagiarism
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Oi, where have you been hiding, I was sure the kimmer had you tucked away somewhere ;-)
read moreOi, where have you been hiding, I was sure the kimmer had you tucked away somewhere ;-)
Thanks Kee, pages have been removed, but damage already done....
This is a very good write and is supported by many here. I wasn't aware of a problem here at the cafe, though I'm not really surprised.
Yes, our work is individually ours. But anything can be stolen... sadly. That little copyright mark does add to the legality, but it isn't a savior for your words. It will keep an honest person honest... but not a dishonest one. And a person who claims work as their own, is a thief.
If it's serious enough to take to court, Pete's way does help. (A mailed, sealed envelope. Mailed to get a legal date on the envelope.) Though who here is going to go to court? Better we have a WC kangaroo court of our own and get rid of those who would claim work done by someone else as their own.
I almost never put anything up here first. Most of mine is written off site.
It is dated and timestamped and safely tucked away. There are also the ones I actually used pen and paper to create. They are also dated. Any of my work here may well be a second or third copy of the original.
Someone can still come along and claim them as their own. But, if push came to shove, they would have a hard time proving it.
Great write! Protect our children!
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The thing is we're not aware of someone stealing our words, they could be floating somewhere out the.. read moreThe thing is we're not aware of someone stealing our words, they could be floating somewhere out there and no one knows the better....I bet Celine Dion wasn't expecting it!
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An honest person will always be surprised by what someone less honest will do or say. And yes, our w.. read moreAn honest person will always be surprised by what someone less honest will do or say. And yes, our work can be anywhere. If you put it on the net, there are a lot of ways for it to travel.
You CAN establish copyright of your stuff if you want piece of mind by sending a sealed copy of your work to yourself by registered mail. (You mustn`t open it!) It won`t guaranteee it not being stolen - but neither does publishing, I`m afraid. For music, there`s a thing called The Bern Convention - and I THINK there`s a corresponding convention somewhere for written word. Well done, by the way, Frieda!! P.
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Sounds like a plan but I really doubt most poets do this...thanks Pete!
Darkness can not enter where there is light, but it would be a foolish man to take you lightly.
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One would think...but it seems a warning about the wrath of poets was not sufficient enough, what ac.. read moreOne would think...but it seems a warning about the wrath of poets was not sufficient enough, what actually brought me to this write.
In my opinion, when you truly know a writer, you can tell whether what they have written is there own....people don't just change their writing styles and tones overnight!! You tell them Frieda, let them know the consequences of their wrong doings!!!
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So true, you know funny you should say since i noticed this at one point, but didn't want to believe.. read moreSo true, you know funny you should say since i noticed this at one point, but didn't want to believe it to be true...once again 'i never learn club'!
Oh believe it Frieda! They say imitation is the best form of flattery but to be honest if that invol.. read moreOh believe it Frieda! They say imitation is the best form of flattery but to be honest if that involves imitating my writing, consider me not flattered :p
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For sure, flattery would be reading our poetry and saying nice job, not stabbing the poet in the hea.. read moreFor sure, flattery would be reading our poetry and saying nice job, not stabbing the poet in the heart... ;-)
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Exactly, but if the poet was stabbed with a pen, I say take the pen and write I mean right a wrong ;.. read moreExactly, but if the poet was stabbed with a pen, I say take the pen and write I mean right a wrong ;)
Hell. If this is true, I am pushing off from here. I would be grateful if u could tell me how you dealt with it and whether the message was conveyed to the culprit directly. Wonder if its anyone I know...
If ever it happened to me, I would not even know! It's that bad.
The message was convyed thru superb poetry. Thanks Frieda!
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I'm not sure our words are safe anywhere out there, it's not just this site, but I trust that most p.. read moreI'm not sure our words are safe anywhere out there, it's not just this site, but I trust that most people/poets are honest enough that they are truly sharing their own words. It's always a few that spoil it, rotten apples and all that...
They weren't stolen from me but from other sites and even songwriters, kimmer called them out on two of their 'so-called' works, which were promptly removed. It seems other poets were concerned and researched further works, which I also did myself, they were also lifted from other sites....I know, it's very distressing.
If any of my work has been stolen I wouldn't know of it. But I feel sorry for them because no matter how magnificent my work is, it won't give them the satisfaction that it gave me. For people like me whose primary language isn't English, every idea is an achievement, every great word is a firework, every poetry is a celebration. And no one can take that wonder away from us.
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I can't imagine there's any satisfaction unless it's the praise you get from other poets when they'r.. read moreI can't imagine there's any satisfaction unless it's the praise you get from other poets when they're reading, but then it's not really your write if you've stolen it, so it hardly belongs to the plagiarizer, that makes no sense to me whatsoever! No one take that wonder away from us but no one should NOT be allowed to get away with it either in my mind.
its just quite amazing Frieda that its merely words but how you work those words is unique , that someone would come and steal thoughts ideas and words is quite something . As Kelvin siad below there is a poets code . Good write until recently I did not know that plagiriasm existed on this site but it does .
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Yes a poet's code, but some people lack ethics or enough faith and/or talent to produce their own wr.. read moreYes a poet's code, but some people lack ethics or enough faith and/or talent to produce their own writes I guess...thanks, and it yes unfortunately it does exist here.
If you want to know me, read my poetry, it's all in there. I am a mother of three sons (my finest moments) a sister, a survivor and a little bit crazy. I lost my beloved sister to suicide, so you'll.. more..