parting thoughts on the saga of deception and plagiarism
I always did kind of feel sorry when they sang "ding dong the witch is dead" * even while I smiled.
* Quote from "The Wizard of Oz"
Enabling Enable the man and Call yourself forgiving Rely on your high horse stand, Dazzlingly magnanimous living.
Don't just hand the man a fresh needle, Make sure you inject his favourite poison, And call yourself clean.
He said my words spoke to him. He didn't bother to tell me he was a ventriloquist.
I am a harsh woman.
I do not agree
he deserves our understanding -- pity the thief embrace the plagiarist invite him in for tea; a special kind of flattery. wrap yourself in his cellophane lies pretend he's a woman pretend he's a man lipshtick on a pig his actions are still porcine.
Enough said, for now. The plagiarist has had his account closed by administration. I.d.s he created still remain open. It remains to be seen if he is still here lurking or will return. There are people who believe I was cruel in my attacks, and helping to lead a campaign to oust the plagiarist from our midst was unnecessary, that in fact I am an unsympathetic person disturbing the peace and harmony of the cafe'. There is no peace and harmony with a plagiarist and a liar. I will continue to watch and wait. If he returns, or anyone like him enters, I will take up the torch again.
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My poems are part of me. Some are very very personal.
When I found them on various Internet sites posted under someone else's name, it really hurt that someone was passing some of my life experiences off as their own. It hurt a lot. I know all the others that it happened to felt hurt and angry too. We didn't start accusing without proof, for anyone that is wondering. We had proof. Lots.
I don't wish ill on anyone, but this man is not welcome here. Anyone that thinks that it is ok to let him back in to steal from us is clearly not thinking straight.
Posted 9 Years Ago
1 of 1 people found this review constructive.
9 Years Ago
Thank you Ana, for your honesty and ever calm voice. It is not flattery to steal one's ideas. It is .. read moreThank you Ana, for your honesty and ever calm voice. It is not flattery to steal one's ideas. It is just plain theft, far worse than stealing money or material things that can be replaced. But we know it was more than that. The depth and breadth of the deception, and the cruelty of this man was far reaching. I don't appreciate someone pretending to be something they are not, and friending me for the sake of ego stroking. I had nearly all his identities on my friend's list at one time because I am an essentially trusting person. Anyone who doesn't mind being lied to by 20 odd personalities, well, I just don't get that.
I don't pretend to understand how anyone of us would choose to have the copying, codifying rat in our midst rather than a watchdog on alert. Yes, one is silent and insidious, while the other is busily sounding the alarm to wake everyone up. But, this slimemold is slithering around in the shadows running through people's libraries, stealing their words, passing works off as his own. Would these same people be silent if a true rat or two were living in their house, spreading contagion and disease? I think not. There is a reason why the pest control companies are kept in business. Bring on the spray, Baby!
Thanks, I appreciate it. The "enemies" I made in taking up this fight were the kind of people who be.. read moreThanks, I appreciate it. The "enemies" I made in taking up this fight were the kind of people who believe in supplying drugs to addicts,
9 Years Ago
Well, they don't matter then, do they? :)
9 Years Ago
Absolutely not. P.S. CVG is back as one of his fake ids. I will PM
Well I just came back from a place where my writing Self got a good battering. As I shake my shoulders I have said it a million times and I will say it again. For those who have no respect for writing, those who think that this is a good site to wast time because there is nothing left in life, and over all for those who do not have the method for how to cope. Then use all that to create and share it with us. That's what some of us do. There are so many other sites for the behaviours exposed on this writing. Go there and make yourselves happy.
Thankyou
Posted 9 Years Ago
9 Years Ago
Yes exactly. This is a writer's site first and foremost. We aren't here to play social workers to de.. read moreYes exactly. This is a writer's site first and foremost. We aren't here to play social workers to deranged sociopathic plagiarists, as sad as their lives may be.
I should have published the poem I wrote, "Rats In Our Kitchen" a few weeks ago, but thought too much since at the time there didn't seem to be a lot of poets who wanted to do something. I was wrong... seems a brave woman did the right thing...thanks KL, you did good. And this "parting shot" is right on the mark... ~~redzone
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9 Years Ago
I thoughts what that poem was about. Thanks. Some people think not but sticks and stones.
i have one word for any plagiarist trying to be on a poetry site...well, two words..."no vacancies"
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9 Years Ago
Thank you, Jacob. Plagiarism is not a form of flattery or a compliment, unless you think the guy who.. read moreThank you, Jacob. Plagiarism is not a form of flattery or a compliment, unless you think the guy who breaks into your home and steals your most precious things is complimenting your taste.
We must always be prepared to accept the consequences of our actions. I don't think the expectation of expulsion from the site was out of line at all. I don't think the problem was with you making it public. I think the problem was that management remained unconcerned for far too long forcing a public and protracted outcry.
You can't keep snakes in your backyard and expect them only to bite your neighbors. Hillary Clinton
Posted 9 Years Ago
0 of 1 people found this review constructive.
9 Years Ago
Yes, you are right, of course. I am surprised with the people who feel this was overblown etc. I can.. read moreYes, you are right, of course. I am surprised with the people who feel this was overblown etc. I cannot imagine being okay with being duped to the degree he duped people. I am glad admin finally listened, because I think it is the only way the perpetrator will ever get the message. And maybe the people who feel sorry for him should realize that enabling isn't helping, it's just making the problem worse.
If you plagiarize, in university, it's expulsion, and a black mark against your academic record. The same rule should apply here, to anyone, who knowing uses another person's posting, as their own. No "ifs" and/or "buts" to the matter, which means their IP address is blocked to this site, permanently.
To those, who were targeted, by this thief, am sorry that you had to experience this robbery of your hard work. I can't be certain that my poems were touched, but they are, of a very personal nature, for me. a form of therapy that I can't often talk to anybody else, about my past experiences of abuse and the struggle, I have faced, during my transitioning.
Thank you, KL, your watchfulness and alarm sounding. Hate to think, how many more people could have been harmed by this criminal.
Posted 9 Years Ago
9 Years Ago
Thank you, and to all the others who helped lead the fight. It wasn't just me. Rene, NoelHC, Frieda .. read moreThank you, and to all the others who helped lead the fight. It wasn't just me. Rene, NoelHC, Frieda and others all joined in the fight before he left in September, along with Christopher Withers, whom I only met because of his own private battle with the plagiarist. There are a lot of people in here who think I am a nosy busy body mean blank blank because of this. Oh well, they can think what they want, I am not enabling a lying plagiarist. At the end of the day enabling isn't helping.
9 Years Ago
Thank you, KL, for listing all the courageous souls that stood up, for what right. I owe them, all, .. read moreThank you, KL, for listing all the courageous souls that stood up, for what right. I owe them, all, a debt of gratitude.
My poems are part of me. Some are very very personal.
When I found them on various Internet sites posted under someone else's name, it really hurt that someone was passing some of my life experiences off as their own. It hurt a lot. I know all the others that it happened to felt hurt and angry too. We didn't start accusing without proof, for anyone that is wondering. We had proof. Lots.
I don't wish ill on anyone, but this man is not welcome here. Anyone that thinks that it is ok to let him back in to steal from us is clearly not thinking straight.
Posted 9 Years Ago
1 of 1 people found this review constructive.
9 Years Ago
Thank you Ana, for your honesty and ever calm voice. It is not flattery to steal one's ideas. It is .. read moreThank you Ana, for your honesty and ever calm voice. It is not flattery to steal one's ideas. It is just plain theft, far worse than stealing money or material things that can be replaced. But we know it was more than that. The depth and breadth of the deception, and the cruelty of this man was far reaching. I don't appreciate someone pretending to be something they are not, and friending me for the sake of ego stroking. I had nearly all his identities on my friend's list at one time because I am an essentially trusting person. Anyone who doesn't mind being lied to by 20 odd personalities, well, I just don't get that.
Fighting talk but you have no need to fear the slings and arrows when you are immortal. Many of us stabbed Ceasar even if you took the role of Brtutas! Long before he was called plagarist I wrote of his attacks on people. You, clever lady that you are outed him and rightly so.
Posted 9 Years Ago
9 Years Ago
Thank you my friend. I know you were never a fan of the man. I for one, though I do agree his action.. read moreThank you my friend. I know you were never a fan of the man. I for one, though I do agree his actions indicate a disturbed mind, enabling him by pretending he did nothing wrong and reviewing his work and inviting him back with open arms was unwise to say the least.
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