Reviews & me(reviewing reviews)

Its has been an amazing experience on this website. I have received really valuable reviews which has helped me. Reviews has pushed me to rewrite some of the stories and make it better.

Reviews for me is exchange of ideas,pointing out grammatical mistakes, different perspective on the same topic,compliments and constructive criticism. I have managed to review 100 stories and poems.

Now I am unable to review anything. Which I don't know why. Most of the stories and poems that I have read their main ideas or the main messages are very similar. Which makes it boring for me. Reviewing poetry is more difficult for me compare to stories because lot of poetries are very personal.

Their are many poetries with new vocabulary which i don't read because 1) it takes time to understand 2) I have to open dictionary many times which makes it boring and waste of time when I am unable to connect it.

I have decided to stop myself from giving reviews.I write reviews with honesty and don't want to be fake.

One honest truth which i felt about writerscafe is that to get reviews you need to give reviews.

Author's Note

Looking for opinions and suggestion which can be helpful.

Reviews

[Davidgeo]

So, basically what you're saying is that you're too lazy to spend the time to progress your literary understanding and vocabulary to give any more reviews? Well, at least you're honest. (i'm only half serious about that... a tongue in cheek kind of thing)

You do speak the truth that most writers on this site, especially writers of stories, write about the same crap over and over again. It's the reason I don't review that many stories myself, I just can't get through them because it's so boring. They are mostly fantasy nonsense cloned from Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings or Hunger Games or Twilight vampire garbage etc.. And when it's not that it's just stereotypical teenage angst, generic love and/or depression, or just awful poorly written high school romance. You are right in saying it's a waste of time reading that crap in depth enough to leave a legitimate review. But to be fair... most of your stories are part of that crowd; you could apply this to your own writing which makes you either incapable of self reflection or a total hypocrite. Either way, your honesty is still refreshing and I'm glad that you wrote this. We all have our moments of hypocrisy and we all have blind spots in regards to self evaluation. (also only half serious about that)

The real problem this site has is that people take s**t way, way too seriously. Too many people here think they are future literary genius's about to be famous and garner worldwide respect. Not enough people realize that this s**t really is just a hobby and none of us are actually very good compared to proffesionals who write for a living. When I see people write crap in their about me section like "i'm a published author" and then find that their "books" are all published via a vanity press that they had to pay for it makes me cringe. Or when I see someone write "i'm a freelance editor" only to realize that means they review other people on sites like these for free. It's almost like a mental illness stemming from a severe narccissistic personality and delusional view of where they see themselves in this world. It's funny to me, but it does make me cringe sometimes.

[Akash gaikwad]

May be I am lazy or I think I don't understand enough to review it. I read those stories or poem which I can understand and review. I agree with your crap part but I might not call it crap.

But to be fair... most of your stories are part of that crowd.

You never left a review to any story or poetry of mine. Except for how to give feedback writing. Surprise that you have read it but I am sure you never went till the end.(judgement that everybody does)
I think this writing itself is reflective for me.

Whatever is the last part I am sure it makes sense to you. I don't take my time to judge people from about me. I judge them on their poetries or stories which is my way your way will be be more right to you. However your review is amazing to read I get sense of deepness of your experience on this site.

[Davidgeo]

Are you sure I "never went to the end" of yours? You'd be right most of the time, your poor grammar is frustrating to try and make sense of... it takes too long to get through while the payoff is usually not so satisfying at the end. But this time I did finish... It was only like, 4 or 5 sentences long man, probably fewer than 250 words... less than a few minutes of reading. Assuming that I didn't finish here is poor judgement on your part.

It's really hard to take your "judgement" seriously in general when you write with such awful grammar. Just re read your comment on my review... it's barely intelligible. I know 10 year old children who can compose better writing than that. So if "this writing itself is reflective for me (you)" as you so eloquently put it, what does that really say about you?

My review was not deep or amazing, it was just my opinion of your opinion. One that more people than you think share in... they just are a little nicer about it or don't want to take the time to bother pointing out such basic flaws or bother with a fool's wounded ego. An ego which is completely unjustified. If you can't even write yourself how in the world can you expect people to take your judgements seriously?

I'm assuming "except how to give feedback writing" means correcting grammar and spelling? I can't really be sure though, you know, because your grammar is borderline unintelligible. But if that's what you meant... what's wrong with that? That's part of reviewing each other's work... catching mistakes to help make things better. You say it like it's a bad thing. I kinda lost a little respect for you just now.

Be that as it may, you're still right about most of the content on this site to include most of mine... it's mostly pretty bad and/or derivative pop. culture dog s**t. But at the very least... most people here do take the time to write coherently according to the basic rules of grammar - you, however, are not one of those people. Like I said before, I know 10 year old children who write more coherently than you.

[Davidgeo]

By the way... I don't write stories. At all. You've never read any of my work have you? Ha... don't be liar man, you don't need to do that here.

[Akash gaikwad]

As you know I am an honest guy!! Which you commented yourself. I have read your stories and poem but never reviewed them.Some reasons are because I did not understood it and you left me impression that you are straight forward and rude. However still I choose to read your poetries. Don't want to brag about that though. yes my grammar does suck. I am improving and I don't want to proof how. Talk about best judgment we both don't know each other well beside our writings. So whatever you say in your context is valid for you not for me. If you really really want me to understand your point of view start to open up and tell me about you and your life experience.

There is line that I remember
If you are here to help then you are wasting your time and if your liberation bounds with mine then let's work together.

[Davidgeo]

I don't know if you're truly an honest guy. I don't know you at all. From one single "story" I am not naïve enough to form an overall opinion on that either way. If I had to guess after these past few interactions, I'd say you're probably not what you are trying to portray yourself as.

I really can't remember the last time I wrote a 'story' on this website... it was definitely long before you were even a member of this site. I really am starting to think you're full of s**t and this being blunt is an act for attention and to justify the fact that you want reviews but you don't want to leave reviews. I'm starting to think you've never read a word I've written beyond these comments. I don't think you do much reading at all on this site. Which in it of itself is fine, but that you are lying about... nah, that's not cool. Like I said before, you don't have to lie about things like that.

Why do you think talking about my "life experience" makes anything I say about the technical aspects of your writing any more or less valid? That just straight up does not make sense. I'm not here to be your friend, that's not the point of this thread. My comments on your grammar are universally valid... your grammar sucks, your spelling sucks, you make the same errors over and over and over and over again --- those are facts; we don't need to be best friends for them to remain universal truths.

And as far as the Lilla Watson quote (that you didn't attribute)... my views on the content of this site are similar but as far as how you write and how you choose to be passive aggressive with your insults... we couldn't be further apart. You are using that quote out of context anyway, it's about real world Australian Aboriginal human rights activism. Using as a reasoning for common ground on some silly hobby writing site is kind of absurd.

[Akash gaikwad]

Me being passive aggressive and you hiding behind your stories is the same. You try to be like patriotic person where else you don't want to look it from growth mindset perspective. You take reply as to reply and not to understand. Its like you gargle your words from your brain without thinking and spit on my face. But bruh but remember I am massacre. You being old or hundred or red doesn't matter when
the brain is dead. Look at your toes you have not walked a mile. since your ego became your caretaker your words are like stray dog barking at me when i offered him food to him in a tray. You have lot to say but only purpose to hide. I look beyond humans eyes,not a blind reader supporting Hitler to fight.

[Davidgeo]

Hiding behind my stories? What are you talking about? (I don't write stories, remember?)
read moreHiding behind my stories? What are you talking about? (I don't write stories, remember?)

Me being old? (i'm not that old) Why would you bring that up? That has nothing to do with anything... "look at your toes you have not walked a mile".... what the f**k are you talking about? Didn't you just get done saying you don't know anything about my life experience? Way to go bro... way to contradict yourself.

Gargle my words without thinking? Um... everything I say is pretty rational. It may not be profound but it does make logical sense. I'm being forthright and giving you my opinion.

And why in the hell would you bring up Hitler? That's just pure ignorance right there.

The more you talk the more full of s**t you seem to be. I no longer have even a little respect for you.

[Davidgeo]

Hiding behind my stories? What are you talking about? (I don't write stories, remember?)

read moreHiding behind my stories? What are you talking about? (I don't write stories, remember?)

Me being old? (i'm not that old) Why would you bring that up? That has nothing to do with anything... "look at your toes you have not walked a mile".... what the f**k are you talking about? Didn't you just get done saying you don't know anything about my life experience? Way to go bro... way to contradict yourself.

Gargle my words without thinking? Um... everything I say is pretty rational. It may not be profound but it does make logical sense. I'm being forthright and giving you my opinion.

And why in the hell would you bring up Hitler? That's just pure ignorance right there.

The more you talk the more full of s**t you seem to be. I no longer have even a little respect for you.

[Davidgeo]

You got the "read more" glitch but you should still be able to read the rest of that comment in one of those responses (they are identical)

[Davidgeo]

Oh yeah, I forgot about you calling me a fake patriotic person.... you pile of garbage... I served 7 years in the US Army and have been to war twice and am now medically retired. There isn't a lot more I could give my country than I already have... you're kind of a dirt bag for saying what you said. Maybe you should learn more about someone before you say stupid s**t like that. D********g.

[Akash gaikwad]

And what belief you carry when you comment or read stories?

[Davidgeo]

That's a stupid question, "belief" has nothing to do with how I comment or read other people. That's a very narrow minded approach. And thanks again for calling a disabled veteran a fake patriot... d********g. I'm done talking to you. You don't even make sense with your s**t talk.

[Akash gaikwad]

Empathy is word we both should learn here. Now that you have gave me a bit of context. I can see you in the layers. I have so many questions which i want to ask but I would start with How are you?

[Davidgeo]

I don't think you can see anything clearly beyond your own nonsense. Anyway, you've already showed me what you're about... and it's kinda pathetic. Can we be done talking now? I think I'm getting dumber after every time I read one of your bullshit replies.

[Davidgeo]

Oh, I get it now... you're trolling for traffic. You suck at life kid. Bye bye now.

[Arya]

'To get reviews you need to give reviews'-I agree with this. But it's not really a fake or bad thing. There are so many writers in this website. But we don't review all of them . We choose right ? Why do we choose ? Cause we are attracted to their way of thinking. We can relate to it. When like minded people review each others work it will help them grow.
As for similar content - let's face it . Most of us are deep thinkers or maybe even overthinkers who like solitude who observe a lot and try to be frank .
So when we choose similar subjects our thoughts are bound to overlap.
Pls dont think I m defending too much. Its just that even though I feel the way you do I still like it .

[Zorg]

I am completely on board with your comment.
It's difficult for me to get into a mindset to critique or give suggestions because the material is too similar in too many cases. It has becoming boring to read another story that has the same elements as the previous. I understand that these are mostly beginners or people putting their toes in the water, but it's stupefying to see the same thing over and over. Be original and daring for once. I'm tired of elves and dystopias and emo stuff without context or believability. Perhaps you should critique. Honesty will be the best policy for many writers granted that the criticism is fair and constructed towards making the work better. It's up to them to decide what they want but if they are posting here on the site to be read, they should possess the necessary backbone that allows them to accept criticism.

[phill..m]

Akash, i'm assuming English is your second language, i understand what you're writing.
Include a poem in your native language then everybody will have to use google to find out
what it means, then they will see how difficult it may be for you to write reviews or understand a
poem because you're going off its true definition
in English of the word, but people redefine the
meaning of word, a type of slang.
meaning

[Akash gaikwad]

Ohhh I needed this empathy. You are right English is my second language. I have already posted a poem in my language but I also wrote a English version of it. Thank you Phil for your empathetic review.

[Coyote Poetry]

Everybody write different. Here at the W.C. We have everything. Sometime you must read the older poetry of your favorite. I hope you are doing well and having some fun this Summer.
Coyote

[Akash gaikwad]

Thanks for suggestion I might consider it. I am enjoying my monsoon.

[Coyote Poetry]

A monsoon. I hope a easy one and you are welcome my friend.

[MeikoShion]

i understand how you feel. im not all that good at reviewing work.

[Akash gaikwad]

Reviewing is difficult but a learning process too.

[Ace Jaxon]

I understand what you're saying with the looking things up in the dictionary, and how time wasting it is. I personally, just ignore the word I don't understand, but when their's several in a poem often I give up.

[Akash gaikwad]

It is waste of time for me when I put effort in learning new words and at the end I am unable to connect poem. Working hard and smart can make us genius though. Thanks for reading.

[Ace Jaxon]

No problem, anytime!

[SleeplessVolcano]

I love it when I find words in the poems or writing of others that I don't understand. If that forces me to use a dictionary, so be it. That is how we learn. If we find learning, boring, then, well, our learning curve will be slow...:)

So keep that dictionary handy......yes, it is hard work, but rewarding in the long run. That is what separates the amateur writer from the professional one......that hunger to learn, to know, to know a dozen adjectives to describe an apple, and not just one or two....:)

[Akash gaikwad]

I surely have hunger for learning but there are two views I have presented that I have reviewed 100poems and stories and now when I try to give I find the same message in poem or in stories.
Second I find boring I can overcome that but when I am unable to connect after a good effort it irritates me. Surely hunger for learning is one the effort for the success.😊

[Chris Shaw]

Many people ask me to review their work and I am happy to do so,( time permitting.) With one or two exceptions the people who ask me, don't call on my poetry. Some people have asked me to review up to six of their poems in one day! I thought the idea of this site is for two way traffic. I also like to check the board to see if any of my contacts have posted new work. You don't have to give a complex review, but I think any writer should be capable of saying something about another's work. A review doesn't have to dissect the lines. A simple response about how you felt about the poem on an emotional level, or whether you liked the message would be more than sufficient in my opinion. The best way to learn about poetry is always to read other poetry. That is how I learned. I really believe that the more effort you put in, the more responses you get. If you want detailed analysis, ask for it, but not everyone will be able to do that for you. I have only been here just over two months myself, so consider myself a newbie still. Any way, good luck with your writing.

[Akash gaikwad]

Its interesting that you are newbie and I have always seen you on top reviewers. Interesting that a writer should be capable of saying something about others work for sure I am keeping this in my mind. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[Chris Shaw]

You are welcome. I think the more reviews you give the more you will receive. That's what I did.

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Reviews can be really tricky. Some people can give you review cause they wanna show how they are clever. Another people give nice review cause they want same from a you. I am not sure if I ever get honest reviews. How you said if you want reviews you have to give reviews. Sometimes just people told me my writing is nice cause I say some about they writing. I give more reviews then I get. Sometimes people even don't reply on my reviews maybe my reviews are stupid. Sometimes you can get agrresive reviews but that's just about ego . Nothing to pay too much atention. I just realy stop care to get reviews cause how many people can give you really honest reviews. I am here for my writing that's my reason why I am here. I always give every day like 3 reviews but minimum response .

But that's fine cuse writing oof poems is more important then this tricky bussines with reviews.

[Akash gaikwad]

This is also interesting way to look. Even I am here for writing. Thanks for sharing your very rationale perspective.

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I think also some give review cause they want communicate with you. That's why some reviews are too soft. Which is fine. Cause this is web site for fun writing nothing too serious. When I something really don't like. I just leave except when somebody was nasty to me at past. But that's just reverenge . I think all writing here is good cause mostly writers express them self who they are. Here is so many wonded people and people with disorders like me. So I find ridicoulos when somebody judge they writing from normal perspective. Write with open mind and give review like you wanna give someone worss of healling.

[Akash gaikwad]

I totally agree with you. I will surely review you. once I am ready to.

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Will free if you waqnt to. I think it was great you brough this issues and we can have some conversation about it. Have nice day.