Diluted minds are impossible to deal with. They cannot be appeased or silenced. They rage to be heard, they write to be heard.
They play the victim for sympathy then they victimize for control. ( or possibly because their board)
The why of isn't important.
We can only stand together and not become like them.
Somehow create a checks and balances.
Posted 5 Years Ago
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5 Years Ago
I agree Cherrie but it sometimes becomes very difficult as he knows how to get round blocking and ha.. read moreI agree Cherrie but it sometimes becomes very difficult as he knows how to get round blocking and has been very nasty. He posted stuff on line decrying Ron's (Wordman) business and sent me threatening emails as well as saying terrible untruths about my son. Thanks for your words.
5 Years Ago
That's a whole other level of crazy. That needs to be addressed.
5 Years Ago
The moderators know and fail to act. Some of us have been trying to understand it for several years .. read moreThe moderators know and fail to act. Some of us have been trying to understand it for several years now.
the worst of the work of tolls and mean things ... hard to know what and who to believe :( seems the subject is up and running once again ... you are not the only poet to post on it sir :((( sad to say ... in the past when the vile one or ones visited me ... i reported them and blocked them without any further adieu ... and that served me well ... the rest i haven't paid much attention to ... only when i am directly affected ... i did have one writer block me because they thought i may have perpetrated what they called a lie about them being the bad person ... but i have not done that .. and i was sad at being blocked from their works ... but we all have to do what we do ... i haven't had anyone "attack" me since at least 4 yrs ago ..and their reviews were so vile and off subject it was a no brainer to recognize what they were about ... i do hope everyone can clear this up quickly ... for me...the Cafe' is my go to place to find honesty and so much diversity .. as well as finding me own little voice ;) love on ya bro!
E.
We are on the same page again 'E' but this guy is something else and he clones pages which may expla.. read moreWe are on the same page again 'E' but this guy is something else and he clones pages which may explain you being unexpectedly blocked. I have been blocked by people I do not even know! Many thank yous for your thoughts on it.
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yes!!! i hear you!!! crazy ... just crazy ... so many better things to do ... makes me think of all .. read moreyes!!! i hear you!!! crazy ... just crazy ... so many better things to do ... makes me think of all the "genius" crooks sitting in computer sweat shops dreaming up and drumming out scams, shams, and all the nastiness crooks think of ... they can't possibly be getting the equal or more return on such efforts .. its like get a job ... a legit job .. or in our case ... find your self man! and just be you for cryin' in m'beer! ;)))))))))))
I find it amusing how people dwell in the negative.
How many of us can truly see life through anther persons eyes. For you sit there and I sit here (in Sydney Australia) and I wonder if you know about my upbringing, my nurturing, my social life, the incidents that have happened in my life, my culture, my surroundings, my past lives and me just here right now. How can we know how another person has been conditioned to face life front on? We don'e, we can only see the limited perspective - oh there are some .2 % of the population who are more awake and aware than others, They can see the different view.
ANd yet, here we still have people on this planet who take offence to words (they are just words) they take offence if someone is walking down the street and gives them a sideways glance in the wrong way - perhaps that person was reliving their own nasty experience in their head.
In my wee little opinion it is the person who takes offence, responds, offers even more negativity in and already negative world, the one who attaches him or herself to the words of another, it is he who has the biggest learning curve - a lesson in detachment me thinks.
And then, if that negativity is not enough they have to get their troops in line for some backing just in case a 'he said' 'she said' war begins.
It is interesting to observe peoples behaviour when a response to something or someone is really just a reflection of oneself, for the reality a person chooses to create for themselves is just that, the reality a person chooses to create from themselves.
Right now I prefer a reality of laying naked and being tickled by the softest feather, unfortunately that reality is currently takes and instead I Must just go to work :)
Love and compassion is the hardest gift to bestow upon our enemies. Problem is, short sightedness always fogs the vision.
Happy day XX
Posted 5 Years Ago
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Be strong enough not to get hung up on the small things - detach - then we will smile the biggest sm.. read moreBe strong enough not to get hung up on the small things - detach - then we will smile the biggest smile :) because its a true smile from the depths of the everywhen.
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Ah I see a paradox developing here. Unless you have been subjected to David Demmer's attention and h.. read moreAh I see a paradox developing here. Unless you have been subjected to David Demmer's attention and his various aliases including the Gunters and KT Little etc, etc, etc, and unless they have said the most disgusting things about your children and you have tried to ignore, befriend and reason with them and defend yourself against them, to no avail and many others have been subjected to the same nonsense it is hard to see how such judgement is valid even if reasonable and what I myself so desire. He cloned Wordman's page and Mine and Lorry's and sent out the most distructive vile messages purporting to be from us. At the same time he cons others to be his avenging angels by being an angel to them and showiing them selective anger form those he attacks. I do appreciate the sentiments and really do value anyone who wants to respect others and keep things happy here.
PS read my piece on his emails for a taste. I turned the other cheek and it failed.
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:D I learnt a long time ago not to engage in diatribe, I will waste a lot of my own positive energy .. read more:D I learnt a long time ago not to engage in diatribe, I will waste a lot of my own positive energy on it and so I like to pursue the good. I explore every gap, I think that's important to explore the gaps to understand tham, but why would I waste my time hanging around in them once understood.
I have been verbally attacked a while ago - but I never let it bother me - for they are only words - it depends on how I want to take those words. Instead of get all bent up over them I smile and ask myself where the words came from in the first place - it's a much more compassionate way of dealing with things (in my own wee opinion)
we all have unique ways into which we view the world - I aim to view it as each person deserves the same amount of love as the rest, for my tiny small steps in offering love, could help in some tiny tiny way to shape a better world someday :)
I also approach life as to hat lessons I am supposed to learn this lifetime - I am learning - always learning - but we each have our own take on lessons too - I am happy at least that I am aware enough to know what my lessons this life time are :D XXX
Well expressed John. You've caught how this behaviour is fairly universal and most of us will have experienced it a some time. Sadly , the perpetrators are often themselves insecure and will have been the subject of some type of bullying. I suppose today with the omnipresence of social media (and I would have to include this place) the opportunities for this vile thing is even greater. Sorry to be so negative but I fear that it is a part of human nature.
Hope you are well yourself,
Cheers,
Alan
Posted 5 Years Ago
5 Years Ago
No I totally agree with you Alan. There is one on here who has been around for years and seems to ha.. read moreNo I totally agree with you Alan. There is one on here who has been around for years and seems to have free reign as he has been reported time and time again for abuse, plagiarism and cloning people's accounts. He currently writes as Dave but is David Demmers aka KT Little etc
Seems we both wrote of criticism at the same time:) I have had a few black spots on me over the years too. I own and run an art gallery and have on occasion been put in a situation where i didn't show someones work at an opening for a feature... this as you could imagine has left some folks a bit angry and tho i explain that i only have limited time for exhibition most often i would offer to sell some in my store or show in a group setting they still got angry! As you could imagine some reacted out of spite. To this I say... let sleeping dogs Lie and I'm reminded of a sort of mantra I should be repeating to myself... “When your work speaks for itself, don't interrupt.” A quote by Mr Henry J. Kaiser
It's sad to see such disruption and turmoil on the site created by one guy. Something fishy is going on with that absent moderator. My best wishes to you all. Too much drama here.
Ah John, I share your views regarding the funny ways some people behave...I share too, a little of what you've gone through, when it comes to being trolled for months by the same guy and his sidekick D-girl lol I myself used the block button on him and it worked fine for me, except that he has certain 'charms' to make people believe him without them knowing the person being accused. And he did exactly that with me, as well as you. I had 'essays' written regarding me on how I'm this fake person, using a fake degree and fake pics which he had no proof of, and with certain 'writers' reviewing on those essays saying how it's not possible for someone like me to be just who I am while they hid behind screens. But lol, truly, it isn't worth it. I decided I don't need to prove myself to anyone. The cafe ain't anyone's property except for the admin which seem to be sleeping in the troll's case but whatever. This site has given me more nice people than the crazy maniacs which is what makes me stay here, even if I do sometimes close my account to take time off for the real world (and for which I was called a 'drama queen' by the sidekick hahah)
In short, I've seen his ways, and even though it made me angry for sometime, in the end, we're all the sum of our experiences. And I'd also say the people who block you because of something they were made to believe than using their brains, then you and we all are better off without the likes of them.
It's a pity he drove Tony away though, 'cause I miss his presence the most :/
Ah, sorry for my rant. Just couldn't help butting in after seeing everything going on the past few weeks...
Peace.
Posted 5 Years Ago
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5 Years Ago
Thank you so much Yumna. I agree with you we should keep sharing with those who do not abuse. We can.. read moreThank you so much Yumna. I agree with you we should keep sharing with those who do not abuse. We can all fall out from time to time but there is no excuse for those abuses. Many, many thanks.
Hi Yumna, I remember that experience of yours. I just joined WC at the time and saw in the newsfeed.. read moreHi Yumna, I remember that experience of yours. I just joined WC at the time and saw in the newsfeed you were fighting like a tigress for your integrity .... scared me a bit. Didn't have a clue of what was going on, even if someone explained, I couldn't grasp the concept of this horrible games some people play. I am very sorry you had to endure jealous attack of that sort.
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Mrudula - hi :-) I suppose I scared a lot of people at that time, but I think that's how one reacts .. read moreMrudula - hi :-) I suppose I scared a lot of people at that time, but I think that's how one reacts when you know there isn't an ounce of fakeness in how you make yourself out to be. But I'm quite tame now hahah ;P experiences like those just made me stronger and carefree about whoever perceives me in whatever ways. Thank you so much for your kind words :-)
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It is heartwarming to know that experience made you strong. And more beautiful as well, self relian.. read more It is heartwarming to know that experience made you strong. And more beautiful as well, self reliance has that effect. All the best
I am very sorry to hear that you have had such an unpleasant experience by one for so long. When people no longer enjoy writing they resolve to other activities to get some attention. The group of writers I interact with are extremely talented and share the joy of writing. I hope this ugly cloud of unpleasantness disappears soon.
Posted 5 Years Ago
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5 Years Ago
He has been around for years on WC. No matter thank you for your kind words.
Your raging words have ignited my mind with my own memories about this, let me share with You some of my own experiences with blocking, I got blocked from some of those whom I didn't accept their friend requests because in my belief You should at least introduce Your self before doing so, well this situation might be understood, but to get blocked from someone You don't even know?!?! that's totally ridicules, and once I suddenly got blocked from someone whom I used to exchange reviews with him and I was but kind and honest like always, I didn't block him back but waited to see what's going on, maybe some misunderstanding, then when he unblocked me I left him a review, then he reviewed me back saying that he blocked me and he will block me again because all I seek is praises after leaving good reviews to him etc and etc of more nonsense... actually I laughed, thought to myself then he is a lair himself leaving me good reviews, I felt sorry for him, his way of thinking is seriously needs to change... sigh!!! poetry sites can be a real mess and dramatic, the best is to stay away if You don't want to get involved or headaches.
sorry that I spoke a lot my friend, it's just that Your strong words touched the right places inside my head. Now get blocked Smile and Write lol
I agree Light. I guess I am tolerant of many of people's idiosyncratic behaviour and I accept and gi.. read moreI agree Light. I guess I am tolerant of many of people's idiosyncratic behaviour and I accept and give critical review as that is the name of art and growth. But nastiness has no place here. Many thanks.
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I lost my tolerance in my review to You lol sorry about that, I just recognize the stack of unnecess.. read moreI lost my tolerance in my review to You lol sorry about that, I just recognize the stack of unnecessary words I left up there. Thank You for understanding and tolerating it.
Well, have a long and complicated story and started it as an autobiography on Bebo but got writer's block/memory fogging. People liked it though and kept asking for the next chapter! fools.. more..