A farsa do natal

FELIZ NASCIMENTO DE TAMUZ PRA VOCÊ, NÃO PRA MIM. A FARSA DO NATAL.

Natal é para abraçar o paganismo, e fazer você ser americanizado, e não pra comemorar o nascimento de Jesus Cristo/Yeshua Ha Massiach. 

Não é "fake news" nem conspiração, porque primeiramente: O evangelho não é sobre o nascimento de Jesus Cristo, mas sim sobre a sua morte por nós (1 Cor 15:1-4). O natal distorce isso.

Basta conhecer a Bíblia pra entender isso, mas se não for o suficiente, basta conhecer também a história dos babilônios, egípcios, acádios e sumérios, pra saber que o natal comemora o nascimento de Tamuz no dia 25 de dezembro, e não do Messias. É aqui que se inicia a comemoração do nascimento, do aniversário, que é um culto pagão, principalmente com velas e bolos, ou torta em algumas traduções.

Porventura não vês tu o que andam fazendo nas cidades de Judá, e nas ruas de Jerusalém?
Os filhos apanham a lenha, e os pais acendem o fogo, e as mulheres preparam a massa, para fazerem bolos à rainha dos céus, e oferecem libações a outros deuses, para me provocarem à ira.
Jeremias 7:17,18

A "rainha dos céus" obviamente se refere a Semíramis. 

Já Ninrode, o rebelde contra Deus (Dt 17:1-5), que adorava o deus sol (Gen 10:8-12, 1 Cr 1:10), cujo nome significa mesmo "rebelde" ou "ele se rebelou" (Gen 11:1-9), teve um filho com a própria mãe - Semíramis. 

Dentre as diferentes versões, mas que levam ao mesmo fim, uma diz que após a morte de Ninrode, Semíramis teria ficado grávida e, para esconder a vergonha de ter sido do próprio filho, disse ter sido fecundada pelo próprio Ninrode milagrosamente somente depois de Ninrode morrer. Isso claro, como se Ninrode fosse divino (Dt 32:16-17, 1 Cor 8:4-6), um deus como ele acreditava, ou o próprio deus sol (Jr 19:11-15, Ez 8:14-18).

Para que a idolatria e o engano se infiltrasse no meio cristão na época do império romano, trocou se apenas os nomes Tamuz, o suposto filho do deus sol e "redentor", para um Jesus europeu e romano, e Semíramis para Maria também com esses traços. Semíramis que segurava Tamuz nos braços, passa a ser representado por Maria segurando Jesus, como se fosse o Cristo verdadeiro.

E levou-me à entrada da porta da casa do Senhor, que está do lado norte, e eis que estavam ali mulheres assentadas chorando a Tamuz.
Ezequiel 8:14

MAIS SOBRE O NATAL:

Papai Noel é um personagem criado pela Coca Cola, e não tem nada a ver com o verdadeiro Deus nem com o evangelho.

https://www.cocacolabrasil.com.br/…/qual-a-relacao-entre-a-…

O natal como conhecemos foi criado pelos EUA, com neve, pinheiro e consumismo, totalmente fora da nossa realidade.

Já a árvore de natal vem dos cultos a deuses como baal e astarote nas montanhas, pelos babilônios, persas e muitos outros, debaixo de árvores enfeitadas , principalmente o pinheiro (Jr 10:1-6).

O presépio vem dos pequenos ídolos de deuses feitos de pedra e madeira, que foram cristianizadas por Roma, para se perpetuar o culto às imagens de escultura aos falsos deuses (Jz 2:10-13, Gen 31:30), desviando assim as pessoas do verdadeiro Deus e Jesus Cristo/Eloim e Yeshua Ha Massiach (1 Cr 16:26, Jr 10:11).

Pesquisem e verão.

MAIS CONTEÚDOS EM "WRITING"

Reviews

[H L Rose]

I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.

There is a reason Mary went to be with Elizabeth for three months when they were told she would bare the Messiah and Elizabeth, John. There is a reason she sang a song of praise in joy. Zachariah prophesied with praise at the birth of John who would make way for the messiah. And don't forget, with the angel who came to the shepherds to announce Jesus's birth “a multitude of heavenly hosts [praised] God...saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased” Luke 2:1. God in the second person of the trinity came down to us! Jesus lived the perfect life, up held the law for us! His 33 years of life on this earth were not only vital but are to be glorified and praised every single moment! Christmas is the usurping of a pagan ritual for Christians to instead focus on the goodness and glory of God to come down to US out of grace because he knew we could not reach him. Same as Easter.

The gospel is more than Jesus's death or birth, but it is his life and resurrection. He lived the life we could not live and he defeated death for us. The glory of Jesus's payment for our sins and conquering of sin and darkness is not confined to the cross though it is highly put on display.

But yes, Santa is the devil.

[Lello]

I understand your point, according to the denominations, we need to do stuff to make our life holy besides the cross. But according to the Bible, the gospel is simple and pure, and has to do only with the death and reassurrection of Christ/Messiah (1 Corinthians 15:1 thru 4, and 2 Corinthians 11:1 thru 4, besides the first chapter of galatians).

[H L Rose]

I am very appreciative that you give bible references for your points!

Yes his death AND resurrection are the climatic point of the gospel. But that does not mean we don't celebrate such a glorious act of grace like God coming down to US. We celebrate our birthdays and our own birthdays should be no where near the celebration we give for the day Jesus(OUR SAVIOR) was born to us.

I don't know what the denominations in Brazil are, but I have grown up in many churches that would fervently denounce a "need to do stuff to make our [lives] holy besides the cross". Now if you are in a catholic based society I can see why that would be the culture, however, there are many God fearing, bible knowing christian leaders today who focus on the sufficiency of Jesus's death on the cross and the inability to do anything ourselves. If you look into present day "reformed theology" you will find these leaders and many of them associate with a denomination.

[Lello]

Any Latin country are catholic in they roots. We have many denominations in Brasil, by the way too much besides many others creed and religion, with the afro ones, so for us is easier to be deceive.
Reformed theology is based on calvinism, which cancel the faith and grace since their gospel is predestination and not faith in the gospel of Christ reassurrected.

[H L Rose]

I think you have a misunderstanding of Calvinism.
It does not cancel out faith and grace. read moreI think you have a misunderstanding of Calvinism.
It does not cancel out faith and grace.
I don't quite understand where you are getting that. Do you mind explaining?

We know God is sovereign.
We know He knows all time and space past, present, and future, and we know He is in complete control.
We also know He created each of us and knows every part of us. Did He not?
Did He create some people will more of a willingness to except the gospel?
Did He give some people experiences in life that would cause them to except Jesus?
The bible says the word "predestination" and "elect". We have faith in God's word which says He has predestined the elect out of grace.

We also know that God does not sin or tempt sin. We know Adam and Eve ate the fruit out of their own free will. So we know free will exists to some extent.

The bible tells us two things. We have the free will to sin and that God is sovereign. That means BOTH of those two things are true. There are many things in the bible that appear like paradoxes to our puny minds, but aren't. The trinity is a great example.
God is not three and one in the same sense. That would be a contradiction.
No, God is three in a way that is different than how he is one, because there is a difference between him being one in being and three in persons.

God is sovereign and in some sense we have free will. We may never completely understand the relationship between these two things fully, but the bible says it so we know it to be true.

I wouldn't exactly call myself a Calvinist by the way, because I think they go too far sometimes, but I would support it more than deny it.

[Lello]

Calvinism, pentecostals, christmas...churches of these days...It all comes from America, you can be part of those things, I just say I won't. It's not biblical, not from my culture, and I don't post here based on denominations, that's why many people might feel offended.

[H L Rose]

I like to hear new points of view. Calvinism is most definitely not American, but I would honestly like to hear where you are coming from. How is Calvinism not biblical and how does it denounce faith and grace? If you don't mind me asking

[Lello]

I know John Calvin interpreted the scripture in the sixth century, and that's where it comes from the predestination doctrine. It can be considered american because the churches we have here, the models, congregation are brought by american missionaries. Good for them if they came here to tell us about Christ, besides the portuguese catholicism and afrocan gods, even if they did in their way.
But now what about the bible way?
Show me in the Bible where we are not saved by grace through faith, but by predestination. Because all I got about election and predestinations are about Paul and the jewish people, as the chosen people which we can be part of, even being gentiles by the expiation with MESSIAS blood.

[H L Rose]

By that reasoning, if a Brazilian takes a British book to a country where no one has read it, does that make the British book a Brazilian book?

Predestination does not denounce being saved by grace through faith.

Grace is in God's forgiveness and God's forgiveness is still forgiveness if he is the one who chose to do the forgiving.

Faith is still faith if it is faith given to us by God. It is not faith that we ourselves were able to obtain because we can do nothing for ourselves apart from God. God gives us the faith.

[H L Rose]

sorry I forgot to add the scriptures I wrote down so one minute.

[H L Rose]

2 Corinthians 12:8-9 - "Grace is made perfect in weakness". Not in our ability to trust and have faith, but in the faith God gives us.

[Lello]

God put faith in everyone, each person in its due time of life. I was 33 when I felt like I should know more about God. Moses was 40, when he first met God, Abraham 70, my sister 9, I was 33, so each person has a right time for God's visitation. And He visits everyone in the right time, not only the "predestinated".
I know a book written in a country can't be consider from another country just because it was brought up by the country. But we wouldn't have the so called tradition churches based on calvinism (reformed), if the american missionaries didn't have bring it as a important doctrine. I'm not blaming anyone. I just saying we have a better option, the only option this days which is the Scripture it self.

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no mores.
Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Hebrews 8:8-10

It means the Spirit teaches s us, we don't need a man in a pulpit trying to teach us, but only congregate biblicly if possible.

[Lello]

When we try to reach God by our own way, we create a religion. And it's not good, I don't like religion, Jesus didn't /don't like religion, even Madonna didn't like religion and got famous by criticizing it.

[H L Rose]

"God put faith in everyone, each person in its due time of life" This sounds very universalist. Is that your theology? Everyone goes to heaven?

Here is my problem with not accepting predestination:
If I go tell someone the gospel and they get saved, that was Gods doing. He gets all the glory. It was nothing I did.
In the same way, I do not have the power to cause someone to go to hell because I did not deliver the gospel properly.

Nothing we do can get us to heaven, and nothing we do can get anyone else to heaven.

[Lello]

Everyone one can be called by God, but NOT everyone accept the calling. It has nothing to do with universalism. Many prophets in the OT didn't follow the law properly and in the NT, many people can deny the grace through faith. Faith is a tool God gives to anyone in its due time, but since a minority accept it, only this minority are saved.

"Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:"
Acts 26:19

If Paul wasn't desobidient to the heavenly vision, it means he could to, if he could it means it's conditional, the so called freewill.

[H L Rose]

Then why do only some accept?

We know God has created us.

"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb." Psalm 139:13

So has he created some with more of an ability to accept him?

"for many are called, but few are chosen" Mathew 22:14

He gives everyone the opportunity to accept him, but no one would choose to accept him. No one. Not me. Not you. Not the most moral person you or I know. Non of us are better than another. The only reason anyone accepts him is due to his unconditional love. His love IS unconditional! That is what makes it so great!

"For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. in love" Ephesians 1:4.

(By the way, I like debates like these, but I am not trying to be rude or insensitive. I'm not upset, just presenting my points.)

[Lello]

I like these debates either and I'm not trying to be rude.
The references you gave can't be enough to say there's a predestination to some, or else, some would be better than others. God is not bounded in space and time like us. So by that and His prescience, of course he knew I would repent with 33 years old when I was in the womb of my mom.

[H L Rose]

Yes and you are telling me that He did not play a bigger part in your life to bring about that repentance than He did in another persons life?

If He played the same size role in your life as He did in another person's life, why is it that you repented and they did not? Is there some special quality that us that repent have? But God created every part of us. If we have that quality, He put it there.

The bible does not say we have some special quality. That is not the answer. By thinking that those of us who choose God just have that ability while others don't, is to say we have some role in our salvation. But we don't. That is all on Jesus.

[Lello]

It's not about ability, it is all about choice. First the faith gave by God, I agree, but then our choice to reach grace repenting/accepting the gospel.

[H L Rose]

But why does't everyone make that choice? Are they not as wise? Not as moral?

[Lello]

"Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."
1 Tymothy 2:19

If it says that the person needs to depart from iniquity, then it means that such person might not depart from it, which makes the statement conditional, and if it is conditional there is a choice. That choice people call it "freewill", to make it short. So why some people don't make the wise choice, let's see:

"But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

"If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work."
2 Tymothy 2:20 and 21

Well, the verse starts with a IF A MAN THEREFORE...
IF is a conditional word, then there is a choice, the opposite of calvinism that says the "election" is "uncoditional".

I know I took just this Tymothy example, but it is to make the coment short, there are many examples about salvation by faith, not by predestination.

"A fool despiseth his father's instruction: but he that regardeth reproof is prudent.
In the house of the righteous is much treasure: but in the revenues of the wicked is trouble.
The lips of the wise disperse knowledge: but the heart of the foolish doeth not so."
Proverbs 15:5 to 7

[H L Rose]

I appreciate your extensive inclusion of verses!

The problem is that you are seeing freewill as an opposite to God's sovereignty and predestination.

As Luther once said "your thoughts of God are too human"

The verses you give imply man's choice, but I am not saying that man does not perceive a choice, I am saying God gives everyone a choice and NO ONE chooses him so instead he chooses some out of love.

"For many are called, but few are chosen." Matthew 22:14

So I come back to my question: Why do you say some have the ability to choose God and others don't? Is this not a more lucrative belief? That God endowed some of his creation with more wisdom than others?

[Lello]

The chance of choice made by God is where the sovereignty of God is.
Everyone have the ability to choose the right, but not everyone do so for reasons explained in Romans chapter 1 for example.

[Lello]

You can also read Ezekiel chapter 18 to have more about the character of God in the old testament, and I'll post three good verses in the 18 chapter in advance:

But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.

23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
.

By the way, weeks before we start this calvinism discussion, I started to write a post about calvinism, but I didn't finish it up yet, it's unpublished, but I'll work on it and publish. I had preterism in the way lol, which I didn't even started yet :(

[H L Rose]

lol cool! I'm excited to read it!

Ezekiel is a great example! God commissioned Ezekiel to warn the Israelites and told Ezekiel no one was going to listen to him. Sure enough, the hearts of the people were hardened and no one listened. Those Israelites were not made in any way less than those who do except God. Right? They weren't made with less of a capacity for God and righteousness.

We all have the capacity for God (Romans 1:19). We all have the responsibility to do good and honor God... but we don't. In the way we perceive the world, we choose. Verses that address how we SHOULD turn from evil do not explain away predestination. They are vessels to help us learn on a human level. God's ability to distinguish his and our own choices is NOT human. We can't understand it, we can only rely on what the bible tells us.

In Romans 1:8 Paul thanks God for the faith of the church in Rome. Why would he thank God if God did not have a part in bringing about ones salvation? The Bible talks about the “chosen”(Mathew 22:14), “elect”, and “predestined”(Ephesians 1:3-14). Instead of trying to explain away those words we should be trying to understand them.

We know our coming to faith in God is not based on us having more righteousness because it is not our righteousness that is counted but Jesus's. Paul for example was the last person who you would think to convert but God chose to appear to Paul and reveal himself... why doesn't he do that for everyone? In Paul's story alone we see God exercise his power to choose us like he did Paul.

[Lello]

The only thing I can agree with you is that God who takes the first step. God gives us the faith to reach the grace but... that's the thing, we choose to repent and turn into God's direction or not.

[H L Rose]

What do you say about the scripture that mentions the elect and predestined? What do you say about Mathew 22:14 and Ephesians 1:3-14?

[Lello]

What do I say? The Scripture in the whole context tells us what it all means. Paul was talking about him, and the hebrew people, those are the elects. Seems like the predestination he cites, is based on Isaiah 49 when it's written clearly announcing Jesus and someone who would take the gospel to the other nations, and that I think it is Paul. There are other profecies not only about Christ but apostiles. For example John the Baptist in Isaiah 40:3 cited in John 1:23, Luke 3:4.
How Isaiah knew about these guys? Prescience of God, therefore if there is any sign of "predestination", it happened with Paul and the hebrew people like John the Baptist. But in churches they act like they were hebrew or apostiles or even prophets, that's the worst part.