I'm just gonna rant for a second, don't mind me

I'm just gonna rant for a second, don't mind me

A Chapter by Green

Can we not do better?


Have we become the problem?


It’s crazy to ask that question considering that many people on this site are full of encouragement and genuine desire to help each other get better.


This site is not what it once was. The community has shrunk and it’s now unsupervised (or sure feels like it). Spam accounts frequently take over the new writing page, harassers run rampant, and the groups and contests are practically non existent. And still, there are those of us who stick around. Still there are those who don’t give up on this site and try to keep up at least a semblance of the community it once was. 


But we have a bigger problem. There is one particular reviewer who under the guise of being “helpful” and “educational” and “an expert”, regularly rips apart new or less popular writers.


This person regularly states opinions (and they are opinions although he calls them facts) such as “no one woke up this morning and cared about what you felt” and “this is not the correct way to write poetry/fiction”. I’m open to anyone’s opinions on my work, but I’m also not brand new and have enough other people review my stuff that it doesn’t matter to me. But imagine, you’re a new writer (either to this site or overall) and you put up something that you’re proud of, and it gets one review that tells you “you suck”. And that’s it. 


Because what he’s doing is intentional. There’s a reason he’s not reviewing the “popular writing” with his expert opinions. 


This site might not be what it was, but it is guaranteed to never even get close to that again if new people have to run a gauntlet to even get in.



© 2024 Green


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So it goes Green, it's a strange website with a long list of flaws.

I agree with John below, and read your response. The 'review for a review' phenomena is primarily why I have reviews disabled - I've seen that those who review constantly, especially with praise, have a tendency to be reviewed in turn and usually learn fairly quickly that it's a fast way to make the home page.

My problem with that, is that this attention can sometimes go to their heads and they can get testy with those that threaten their sense of status.

I think Jay was once one of these types, though I may be wrong there.

I've seen also, that there are those who've learned that they can create as many accounts as they want - they can inflate their primary account with reviews they write themselves and, again, get featured on the front page faster.

When I asked myself why they'd go to these lengths, or why they'd spend so much time ambushing new or seemingly unequipped authors, I concluded that it had to do with status, or at least the perception of it.

Anyways, the block button is always there, and my advice is to not let this site occupy your head rent free. Focus on the positives that it brings you, and hopefully they ought to become more pronounced.

Best of luck,

-Ook

Posted 5 Months Ago


2 of 2 people found this review constructive.

Green

5 Months Ago

Yeah, I know you're probably right. Honestly he doesn't usually bother me that much. People only hav.. read more
Ookpik

5 Months Ago

You've got it, there's only the power you give to your antagonizers and in that we have some armor. .. read more
Davidgeo

5 Months Ago

Ookpik is wise.



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I find anyone who says directly this is how you should do your art rather than says nicely can I suggest is a tosser and should be ignored and or blocked. A case of who died and made you the arbiter of all good taste? I totally agree that people should be encouraged not degraded for some ignorant and usually deluded sense of self importance. These are weak people who feel they must bully others just starting perhaps and a little unsure to start with.

Posted 3 Months Ago


Interesting thoughts Green. But Writers Cafe is definitely moderated. I had cause to complain last year and it was dealt with. But I think the Moderators like their invisibility cloaks.

Posted 4 Months Ago


Green

4 Months Ago

Then I would love to have your in with them because I have reported several rather serious issues la.. read more
red93

4 Months Ago

Very kind of you to say Green but you probably know more about this Site than I do - I am in the UK .. read more
I dunno, friend, I've made a post about it all too. I know of the situation you speak, but goodness, is everywhere these days. I really like this community at its best, so it's a shame to see. It'll get better I think.

Posted 5 Months Ago


1 of 1 people found this review constructive.

I agree wholeheartedly. I know or have an idea about that person, persons.
We all have different approaches, ways to deal with people, situations like that.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences with us.

Posted 5 Months Ago


2 of 2 people found this review constructive.

Jay has an inferiority complex. Ignore him. His behavior here is just masking the fact he hasn't figured out how to cope with whatever makes him feel insecure in the real world.

Feel bad for those people... after you block them. Then forget they ever existed.

Posted 5 Months Ago


I completely agree. This is very insightful. This site isn't even close to the community it once was. I used to have friends here.
Ive run across JayG and he was pretty direct and it made me feel bad, but I needed to hear it I think. I had written a 3 part story and I thought it was creative and good. Jay ripped it apart. I eventually realized he was right. I deleted it.
Just a few thoughts.

Posted 5 Months Ago


2 of 2 people found this review constructive.

Green

5 Months Ago

I absolutely believe he’s given good advice and provided meaningful feedback to people. I do not h.. read more
Franky

5 Months Ago

Very true. I think encouragement is huge. I haven't even written anything in over a month becaus.. read more
They just want attention. Forget em. Keep writing if that's what interests you. They shut up.

Posted 5 Months Ago


Green

5 Months Ago

They certainly do just want attention but I’m not always sure ignoring them is a great solution es.. read more
Ya'll he sucks... (I'm also on anti-depressants now... he's part of the problem)

Like *ahem and cue the sarcasm* Sorry if I post what I feel because it is an outlet

F*****g idiots

This made me feel 100% less likely to kill myself (I'm semi-joking)

thanks

we love

Posted 5 Months Ago


1 of 1 people found this review constructive.

Green

5 Months Ago

I don’t see why anyone should be bothered by what you say if they can’t be bothered by him
So I have been on here for 14 plus years. I have seen many things. I’m not sure who you are speaking of…

There use to be someone on here that have pretty blunt and in your face reviews. I actually befriend said person cause I wanted help without sugar coating to help me get better at writing. We have now been friend over 14 years. Don’t worry he no longer haunts these pages and hasn’t for many years

I know many people can not take the harsh in your face judgement of their work. He’ll most people can’t and it is completely understandable. People should not be cruel and give unwarranted advice. They can try to offer positive feedback and suggestions that might help in their writing.

Not long ago I tried to give small suggestions without being harsh and even said it was what I used to help me. I got deleted and blocked. Shrugs

Posted 5 Months Ago


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Green

5 Months Ago

Yeah, I'm sorry but this doesn't really have a place in my comments section
Davidgeo

5 Months Ago

I understand.
I agree with many of your statements
First, this site is not great for women. They get harassed and ad you say no one responds to calls for help secondly, this so called reviewer is doing more harm than good. Why make a public beratement. Be tactful and sensitive. Not everyone has same goals of being publish. Some want to say peace for healing.

Posted 5 Months Ago


Green

5 Months Ago

Exactly. It just makes me sad when I see him (or anyone else) go off on someone who has stated somew.. read more

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