Ex-lit Forum Truth & Trust...

I was/am hurt at the demise of our community at Lit and entirely blame dishonesty for its occurence. Truth is a far stronger glue and here, in our newly formed and beautifully growing group I hope we can maintain it.

I made the group 'invite-only' so that we could enter individually - with just one name that we already know. The ability to upload photos too will add to the dimensions of our selves if we choose to use it... helping to rebuild the trust too.

For me, every time I found a 'new user' or the rebirth of an old unser-name on Lit... I found myself sceptical, looking for clues to who was really behind the facade. That is no way to read and no way to exist within a community that should be a plaeasure.

There is sheer delight to come to this page and find that here in our group - are the names that excite me as a reader and come with the knowledge that I have 'known' each of you for years. Thank so much for coming together.

Namaste,

Tina x

 

Trust is crucial, I agree.  I think that I was too trusting when I first joined Lit.  My experiences there made me quite cynical for a while, but now I'm recovering some trust.  In the end, I hope, I'll have a better balance of trust and wariness in my online life.

Hmmm.  Perhaps I'll try posting photos, too.  What a step that would be!

Hi Tina (and ex Lit fraternity)

I can blame Ivor for introducing me to Lit.org�.. I had no intention of writing anything that wasn�t related to work apart from the odd email to family and friends�.. The Telephone and MSN or Yahoo messenger even saved on the little typing I did before Lit�it had always been a secretaries job to do my typing..correct my spelling grammar etc�it had gone from bad to worse.

At Lit I found you lot   and the other bunch of rogues ��. Though I am inclined to believe (Like you Tina) that everyone should be upfront�

Even fter reading Bobs

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�The Internet in general is a strange place, a virtual Theatre of the Absurd, were illusion and reality coexist side by side and are often blurred together. Concerning myself, I never had a problem with its illusionary nature although I�ve found that others can�t seem to see-or don�t want to see-what�s inside all that smoke and fog. Those with a literal and linier way of seeing things tend to take it way too seriously.  I see these firebrands as great performance artists with a wicked sense of humour albeit a somewhat odd sense of what constitutes fun. Many in the writing community see them in quite a different light. Be that as it may; there is still no denying that they helped and inspired many a writer and their shadows still remain etched on the sites where they bestowed their art. These be my Muses of the Night�

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It�s not a problem for me whether I am reading fact or fiction but I like to know what it is that I am becoming part of�� I don�t want to be duped into thinking something is being written by an old trout when it in fact a law student with a degree�.. or vice versa�. The butt of some big joke I don�t think 

Of course just because I write a few rhyming poems it doesn�t turn me into a writer�. I  still find it impossible to comment with any technical authority on the stuff some of you submit�. I  know of course if I like it or not.

I do however love to interact with real people who live in real places with real families albeit on the WWW so post all those photos�� I wont laugh if you are ugly�.chuckle chuckle

 

Eric

Okay, for starters, I don't believe Eric when he writes he won't laugh at our pictures.  He has a great sense of humor.  But, then again, I have never known him to lie.

 

I tried checking in on lit and keep getting failed messages.  Wonder if anyone else is having the same problem.

 

I was always myself on there.  As Eric once wrote, I tended to stick to nice critiques until riled up.  Good or bad, all comments were written by me.  The avatar was me.  But, funny enough, I once received a PM informing me some members thought Lena and I were one in the same.  That was funny.

 

I may not have been on lit as long as everyone else on this group but I mourn with you.

This is a new forum -lets all put Lit behind us and move to greener pastures- I always was rcallaci on lit-never used a persona but was never against them either when used benignly or as a pen name- Before it got out of hand-100% Lena's doing) and deceiving and downright counterproductive many of those other multiples were for creative purposes and none of them ever deceived or purposely mislead members- as a matter of fact they were quite productive and entertaining-but that all changed when it came out in the open and hundreds of false members started to pop up-again Lena- and the eventual banning- but Lit never truly recovered as many members kept looking over their shoulders wondering who was real or not-

 

I've run a few sites and I never learn- many sites forbid multiples for the very reason that Tina was upset about -loss of trust- not knowing who is who- .But I liked walking the line- guessing who was real or not- viewing it as theater rather than community- thinking my self as an advocate for free speech and expression and letting hell erupt for the sake of art. I was wrong- dead wrong and the proof is in the pudding- As Eric said - its fine to read fiction but you would like to know who is writing it-if you're using a pen name -it should be stated that it is a pen name and so on- I've learned that lesson at the expense of Lit - It's the reason that Administrating or Moderating no longer appeals to me-People misuse the Pen or multiple and a guy like me feeds them and offers them fuel-My gas can is empty and no longer will I be a part of any such expressions like that- I'm bob-nobody else-at least on this site:) I've lost my taste for the Theater of the Absurd...

 

my warmest

bob

I agree Bob that there is an excitement in the game and a skill to the art of character manipulation - I too enjoyed the changing scenery. But I feel that this is something different from community. Not sure what I mean but I think it is that art is one thing and the artist ...another.

 

Sometimes I love both the art and the artist and sometimes not - but if I choose to befriend the artist, then I like to know them not a depiction.

 

Not sure I explained it well enough really - but truth is important to me. I left Lit because the truth became smaller than the false and it got harder to have real interactions that nourished in any way. 

 

I think you did the most exceptional job as a moderator and did your very best to maintain balance and non-judgmental fairness. The Lit issues are not of your making.

 

xxx

As for me...I guess I was so trusting, that it never occurred to me that people were not who they said they were,  only having been on the net since 2000 and not technically agile.

It was not until Lena joined us, that I became aware of  the skull duggery.  But as long as they didn't ferment trouble, I didn't pay enough attention to it.  Having been a moderator for awhile on the forums with Bob, I can attest to his fairness there...we both tried not to interfere unless it was necessary, unlike the nit picking of other mods.

I can positively assure everyone I AM who I say I am...and was very amused when Eric decided I was "too young and savvy" to be 81 (last birthday)!  Far from being upset I was amused and flattered by that assumption  (Still am!) but then Lena alluded to that and did her damdest to try to prove it, that I WAS annoyed...felt that my integrity was being quiestioned unfairly and planting a seed with other members not to trust me!

But thanks to my REAL friends...you know who you are...they believed me (or couldn't care less) I let it go!

My life is an open book  (literally..read my CHILDHOOD VIGNETTES) where I name names, dates, schooling etc.  Just do a search if you feel you have to.

Now...having gotten that out of my system once and for all....I am delirously happy to again be in the warm and happy group that made Lit was it was in the first place!

Let's KEEP it that way!

Love ya all!

 

L

I finally was booted off Lit - for the past week my password wasn't working- I since learned that I was booted off for trying to recruit members on pm to this forum- Stuart said that he got pasted e-mails from members about our group and my recruiting- which I never did- only pm'd Elizabeth  about the cafe. I was booted off but they were keeping my writing on- no way would I let them do that- So Stuart is deleting my account with all of my writing- a bittersweet moment- Farewell Lit

It seems lit members (not our group) are reporting back to Stuart and Lena on what we say-I say who gives a s**t....


my warmest
bob


 

Hey guys, as you know, I'm still on Lit...but under curious circumstances.  I haven't been receiving Majestic for two months, and I pm'd Stuart about it last month and he said he would look into it, but I still don't get it!

I received an e-mail (not pm) from him asking me to write a column on religion (as a good christian woman!) every month.  He said things were in the works for Lit and he would get back to me.  I don't think I will though...too much a responsibility.

Well, I logged on yesterday, and guess what...he is now the sole owner of Lit, with a whole new crew aboard...Lena for some reason has bowed out...it's been too quiet there for awhile...as Stuart said... and he's trying to bring it back. He's also looking for someone to revive EXPOSED.

I for one am delighted she's gone as owner, but I don't think she will be gone as a contributor!    I wonder what 's up???  I certainly don't report back that I'm even here on Lit so you can be assured that I'm not a mole...I've always told you I'm still there...I don't know if THEY know I'm HERE..

Actually...I don't care much.  I will not be driven away from a site I loved for no reason, and will leave when I decide to!  I haven't writeen anything new there for a long time...only comment.   This is my main home now...so don't you guy's let this die away...I'm counting on you!

Bea

With Obama in Charge the world should now trust all Americans.......

I see Rogans posting has been deleted- He closed his account and for that I'm quite sad. He still has lots of anger over the lit thing- It made him lose all trust for those on the net-I just hope he finds his place- he's a brilliant talent with a solid heart- He just let his anger at lit( and the Queen Troll Lena) get too much under his skin- WE  are truly the ghosts of lit -Stuart and Lena have done a good job reinventing history-

Lena if you are reading this know that you are a major disappointment - a petty little troll and a storefront paper Buddhist- a disgrace to that philosophy.  You're one twisted sick b***h . Stuart you're just a a*****e who has made Lit into a rag.

I hope to see Rogan back here but if not kudos to you on your lit rant as vengeance- wish I read the piece but I can well imagine...


my warmest
bob

for me it's not photos that add credibility - it's my ability to send REAL mail to actual addresses which ices the cake.  I have almost all of the mailing addresses of the group here and have even met a few in real time.  Would love to meet all of you because it validates who we are.  While our writing holds clues I've still been surprised when I come face to face with a person I've thought I knew everything about.  

Oh, Eric, now you got me riled up...

 

The world shouldn't trust Obama.  I refused to turn a blind eye to his arrogance and will not do it now.  Did you see him bowing to those who hold the pursestrings?

 

This is not a site for debate so I will shut up about it now.

 

Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is.