Ex-lit Forum confessions

Lit.org was a home for all of my first draft writing for the past 6 1/2 years. It's where I felt quite comfortable to show my work in- warts and all. Leaving it has left a hole-which I hope this site will fill. This site is pretty cool- has lots of great features- once I learn to navigate it I think I'll put my favorite series of poems that I still continue to tinker with- I just put an old one up that is a part of a series dealing with bible interpretations. I think I'll have fun here.

But this thread is about confessions and I need to confess that I probably was the main cause of the Old Lits demise. I thought I could trust Lena and control her periods of lunacy and paranoia. And I did for the first 3 months of her ownership but once Stuart got into the picture her venom exploded. The irony was that Lit was on a revival -most of the oldtime members were coming back and chris and I were initiating old programs. But lena disliked most or all of the oldtime members but needed me and chris to run the site so she stayed in the background and held her tongue. The rest is history..but if I listened to Michael in the beginning-that lena should not be reinstated from her ban- lit would be alive and well today- He knew her as I now know her -a brilliant and talented women with deep psychological issues with an overriding  need to create chaos. Before lena purchased the site I was in a panic- Yusef couldn't fix a lot of the bugs and didn't want outside help to come in. I couldn't afford to buy it and when lena inquired if the site was for sale I directed her to yusef who wanted to get rid of lit in the worse way. The irony in this is I then contacted Chris to help run the site once lena bought it- He was more then happy to get his hands on his first creation but He would have bought it with me if I asked. He would have negotiated a much better price than what lena paid for it- but it was to late- the deal was done- the Devil and her minions(stuart a real a*s) have destroyed the essence of what Lit stood for. And I was the cause for this debacle- forgive this old fool....

 

 

my warmest

bob

 

Thank you.

In the decisions you took - many things have happened and whatever you imagine is bad about that - isn't.

We need to be bumped from our steady patterns from time to time and I know that every event that seemed sad or bad - has taken me somewhere I needed to be. Your part in this 'bump' Bob - was never played with malice or ill intent - all who know you, know that.

Actions and outcomes sometimes play out in ways that do not reflect our intentions - that is just the way it is. You are RCallaci and we know you as a friend.

Namaste,

Tina Louise xxx

 

 

Hi Bob and Ex Lit members

First straight to the point...how much did it cost Lena to wreck Lit.org ?

Lena did tell me when she bought Lit but not how much it had cost. In fact I had guessed what she was up to at her first enquiry..... Lena is clever and I mistakenly thought for a while she could pull it off..... I was told in confidence and was not going to expose the new owner..

I would never have walked away from Lit.org and Stuart knew that. I expect he just got fed up of having to delete so many of my comments telling him how to manage and picking up on what his intentions meant.  I only tell the truth as I see it so it was probably his best move. I am not aware if Lena is in fact ill and undergoing surgery or if that is just a role she is playing.

I did upset her years earlier as Leila? saying her husband was ex American Air-force..and going on that truck drivers ride???.... unfortunately for her my own son was a British Army Pilot now an RAF pilot teaching RAF to fly Chinook and has done (is doing) the stints in Afghanistan and Iraq....That and my own service background (and my fathers) means it is quite hard to pull the wool over my eyes on anything military...... that's how I think breath act

I expect your patience must have been a bit misused Bob

There are  some on Lit.org I know and have met ...Tina being one... credit to Tina for gathering us here..... I have had a look at some of the other sites (and logged onto them as Fairplay)  some of you may have seen me on sites you have used...... I don't know this site yet but will try to get to understand it... It's the people that make the places not the places themselves.

People I have not met......... It seems the original Lit.org  has been so full of make belief it was bound to self implode..... Ones I have met have all been diamonds..for which I give myself full marks...for making a point of meeting....For those I haven't met...start thinking of your excuses now.......

Eric

 

No one could have seen the end result would be what it is today.  You handled yourself with dignity, Bob, and that is quite a fete when faced with her erratic behavior.  I, on the other hand, made an a*s of myself at times but I attribute it to passion.  I referred to our exchanges as fun but the truth is it drained me. 

 

When I first joined it was after reading a memo sent out by Lena through myspace.  From the moment I joined Lit she was messaging about how she brought me in to save the site.  She'd never bothered communicating with me before but claimed I was always one of her favorite poets on myspace and that is why she invited me.  I knew then I was dealing with someone interesting. 

 

You showed great restraint during my exchanges with her.  As I wrote in the message I sent you through livejournal, I have to live with the things I wrote about you.  But today is a new day and that's what matters now.  To paraphrase Tina:  We are where we need to be.

 

Thank you for letting me into the refugee camp.

 

- Francisco 

If only, if only.  There are so many "if onlys".  And only so many one can take before saying, "To hell with this.  I'll just muddle through".  :)

Whatever mistakes you made, Bob, in the end Lena has to take responsibility for her own behaviour, and it is Lena's behaviour which started Lit's slow decline several years ago.  Who could have predicted what happened, in the end?  Not I, anyway.

I've made many mistakes in every realm of my life.  More than I care to recall.  I certainly made many mistakes as a member of Lit.  I was new to online communities (Lit was my first), and dreadfully naive.  I trusted Lena with details of my life that I shouldn't have, and I let her draw me in to her paranoia for a while.  By the time I realized what was going on, she was attacking people all over the site, sending me disturbing stalkerish emails, and it was difficult to rectify the situation without hurting her feelings.  I had no idea that anyone could be both innocently delusional and slyly manipulative all at once.

In the end, one day I discovered that I couldn't log in any more.  After many inquiries, Stuart finally confirmed that Lena had deleted all of my writing and my PMs.  She hadn't gotten around to deleting all of my comments yet, but there were only about 1,000 left last time I checked.  No warning, no discussion.  Just one day my writing was gone and I was excommunicated.  When I asked Stuart why on earth he and lena (I insisted he not absolve himself of esponsibility) would do such a thing, he confirmed, diplomatically, that it was Lena's revenge for revealing that she was the new site owner.

As you said, Bob, we need to appreciate her for her writing talents, real as they are, and leave it at that.  I don't want to spend the rest of my life thinking about Lena and her enablers -- nor, i expect, do you or anyone else here.  Let's build a new community amongst ourselves, welcome any old Literati who wander our way, and draw some new blood into our writing circle as well!